03-09-99 WSCITY COUNCIL WORE SESSION - MARCH 9,1999
A work session of the HoplOiaa City Council arcs had at 6:30 p.m. oa March 9, 1999, at the
City Hall. Councfi members present were Mayor R~edepeosing goad Co~uncfi members Heech, Jdaa~a,
Johnson and H[a~vell. City P P ~ ~Y Mielloe, D;rrc~,i of P+ablic Wanks
Ste, City Attorney Saeiner and Planning ~ Soono®ic Davao Dar,ct-or Karmen. Also present
were Dick Koppy and Gary Braves to talk about the railroad study; Pica Hoisi~toa of Hais:n~_.
Koegla Gro~op, Inc. for the ~~~ family morsotorium preaeatation; and Mark Anderson and Al Kaler
of A.P. x~~~r, Neal weber as an~~~t~ t, Bill Beadling and Duane ~ oaf the Americas Legion,
and John S6eeban of C,~m~bridge Coouumercial Realty, all to speak an the medical clinic project.
Rail Opp Study, Sty Stag, pcesmtar
Mr. Stadler iatt~od~x:ed Dicr Koppy and Gary Ill~wu by saying that Mioanetoouka and St. Loris
Fork had bins RLK ~ help with the oonflicls the cit~a have with the ra~7roads. lbere is a potential that
sw~c~+tng yards, etc. will be nova to Hopkins ao ti~ey wanted to update Hoplaine City Council on the
Mr. Koppy caul RLK started arorkin~g with St. I.oaia Fetk last September; ~ joined
around Christmas, with than first meeting with the c~ouocil is Febivary. He explained the throe major
corridors and haw they have been ~r-.~tc~ by tba closing of the 29th St. line. If all tb~e ahort~rm
optio®s were ~le*ne~cd, which they will not be, the poet a~o~uld be about 22 ali~on d~ollara. The
major objecxiv~e of RLK and the c~ is to ~~~at+e blocldgg arithia arena so that the trains
are through traffic o®ly; since rail traiBc has daabled in recent years noise is a se~-e~+e pr+obtem. Since
Hopkins is between the two ~' im~olva, it was deemed wise to let Haplaos know wLat arse being
doooee and to try to oonvin~oe the Council to beoorne a third pattnex. ~0-~90~ of the fimdiog fier the stuudy
is frosa Hennepin County so financial o~rtlay would be •vn~n~~al. T!u major problem is that railroads
are basu;ally Hader federal co,~ot«l; about all the cities can duo ie work together to negotiate with the
railrooaa. The legal pz+ooesa ~ sot have miany positive outcomes. The tin~ee major problem ~ at
preseoot are Dominick Road, a Creac area, Elmwood by Highway 7; the last am't be solved
sot present because o+f the aevation diffiGCeneea. At present the two daea Haw involved are hoping to
move the Doininic~c R~oa~d switch area tD as imdoatrial area olHopkias. Fong term, tLay hope to ha~re
it nova tD (i~aooe, which is the ~scb~.e fior the Twin City d~ Weston Railroad. The cities are
eoeouraged in that bath Canadian PaGif~c and TC~W have already agreed to each put a - - 've
on a technical ea.....~trc to study problema/so As environmental study to establish noise leevoaaa
will soooa tape place. If Hopl®s joins die p ' ,they may want to add items m the scope or add
to poisible optio®s.
Geaaal disweson inch~ded the points that Hopkins shaald get in the process since that is where
block~g may be moved to; it is better to knave what is wing on sad have same input in the procxsa
rather than try to get the court system to charge fl"y" put is place. Mayor ~P~"'""~ noted
term' sohrtions cam be very ~8~ in ~~'ic1 so Hopldna needs to be in~-olved in ";,~..;~" solutions.
Mr. HLaxwell sstid the - that brought Minneta~~ into the partnership shorild be looked at.
Gmsral eoaea~a~s: Mr. Mielloe should start a dialog with ~ and St. Louis Park; the
cry sitornay's office should look i~ legal options to p`'otect Hopkma if a win-win sc~h~i~ casmot be
fo~md. Fran asloed that Mr. Miabe or o~tha staff look at sect3ona of the reports that concern Hopkins
before more discueeioa.
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• of with ~ ~ of family bossing had been
Mr. Kar~gsn n~otod the options ding single
redaoed to dmee at as earlier session. Mr. Ho~siggtoa ~ Ha~sittgton ~ furtLer detaiks on tLe
three. notigg a ooaitio®al use permit system is easiest. Cny Attorney said the aoang system and CUP
aystam would difrer in autLookc. It ie ~ ~ cue ordinances ~ ac~~*rodatie the CiJP system. but
it would be Larder to aJ~i~;stratie than the ~~ system. 17~+e is moz+e Lmtdide in t~,.ibg down
rn~g requests tLaa CUP's; rmoaog is easier ~ pt+otect is the e~o~uts. Fran Hesch aslmd about seang
vote results of g~v~,~ing bodies of institutions w~*~g reao ; Mr. Saner said it raised First
issues
Gen~a~i Cosmmsoe: At the April session, oity staff should present hypothetical soe~arios user each
systiaa ~ institutions such as St. John's, Bkaloe ScLool, Mizpah, and Chapel View to help the Council
the diffi~.eaoes amogg the three optio®s. Pam Reach's gaestioa about ~c,.;~~,g ;adaau
on vote results shouts be loolaa ice.
Maja CNoic Pra~ect, AP Sir, inc. nod Jim B,acrlgm, ~
Jim K,arigaa started by saying that the press site bang oo®sidered is betwaa 12th and 13th
Aveaaues south of Main St. AP Ke11ac wancaed ~ update the Cauacil.
Mr. Keller said both St. Joseph's and the American Legion Lave indicated they are willing to
work with 1Le dinic. TLe Fine building owner is not ooopesative, but they fixl they Laave enough
backing to g0 ahead. The pTCaC~ Clin1C bOa11d ~indiCated they ~~°~~ want a Main St. 10~'~BtJO~.
In ooneept, AP Keller will need tax ~ Elude fior tLe parking ramp, but they are not ready to
dista~ss Mr. Kerrigan noted a new tax ' district would need to be crested and same
~ be poss~le. Mr. Kakr said they stroggly wish ~ Lclp tLe city with its pacloq~g oonoans as they plea
than parking ramp. Arr~t+hct weber said at present Le is deigning p®rldag for about 400 oars with 3
aooess ponds, as well as a 3-4 atosy balding. During dis<a~ssion it wan n~ota "pay-fin" pa~Cing wa~1d
not Lelp tLe city.
Gma~al Co~sa~sus: Mr. Mielkx shou]d remain responsive to AP Kelley's needs. Beoahoof will get
approval do let their oitY pa~6 ~Y results be given do AP X~ttrr,
Dot Pra~a~t Update, Fig Hasch, p~saatac
IUIs. Hesch noted a ]aey oo®~oern is that "Depot Coffee House" is listed as an ass~maed name for
the C,ihr of Hoplcros with the 5.,.;~ctaa~r of State. This t+ig~t~+~ issues of aractly what is the city
responsible for. In reiaton ti0 peraonael, the student board is "in Ch8i$C" but the crty ~s legally
reapoas~le; Law does tLis/ahoukl this work art in practioe~l The ~ .riric-house and tLe teen ~ •-~,~ Lave
in practise turned oat to be taro di[fc.c~ oosnponeads. The pro,~OCx is losing money, and m one seems
do lie as explanatio®; arLaot is the city's reaponsibitiity if all the money is go®e in the l~~,? She noted
that so far Hopirins Lan not Lad a large financial burden as the reaovaaon project cost of X300,000 was
funded with o®ly 6~ ~~ from ell government bodies invrolved.
Steve Msellae Herod he fuels be is a fac+~, not a boss. 17cere are many "par+enct o"~ •~~ ~tior<s"
but Hopkins is the most active. Does tLe Co~mc~il consider this to be a "Hopkins projecct," and, if so,
Lose do they want him to proceed? WLe~e does Lis autho~ty start and shop? He has never taben on the
power do Lire and fire, only the legal and fmanoial issues. Does this need do cLange? He noted the
manager Las never lama evaluated; that is necxssary. Karen Je~osea said Ley major oonoera is for the
teens involved, that they not feel tLey were not supported. Others oon~~c~cd. Fran Reach said it is
t~+*a1Crable do be Leld responsible if the dry c'm have no impact. She wants do encourage and support
the ad~deats, but not an a "hand-~a~at" basis that subsuliaes waste. She feels tl~ needs to be reports,
etc.l0oe from the Art ~'~v+r* if tLe city is to be Leld Mr. Maxwell Hated it is Lard do ]mow
whet do do or Law do Delp if there are no figures, etc. to base deasi~ons an. Several noted the renovation
pkan Lad bees got, but tLe opantion plan Lad not been well ..Mayor Redepen~ felt Steve
Haas to be the person wLere "tLe buchc stops"; that he needs tD mgr the opt and see that the
wishes of the teen board are carried ont. He feels the other "partners" see Hapldns as the main
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C's~l91 CO®s~sOS: 11~r. Should uact the O~h~r "partaer8" 80d Bee What ~ w8~
done, particularly if Hopkiuos should beoo®e m~or+e respoueible; he will become mooch more active in
clarifying responsib~l~ties. It should be made clear tD the board ~ whoever tal~ea fiscal resP~~~Y
bas to be ah0~wn the ~maacial records. He shoutid report b®ct neat muh.
Orha~ Lama:
Hopkins j,~: Robbie Hsrt6~e1 has pat tiogether a quarterly pubes about board and ~~
activities to be mailed tD all residua. Cost pGr . a mould be about ~'t,000.
Oouesasae: Try one iaswe and see what resident response is. Diane Johnson noted Chamic~tl
Health eras nut included. Gene Hlsu~eil said "job descr~ptiomas" floc r~esidu board/ eo®mission
members sb~outid be included. Mayor Redepeming soggue~an sd be pot is for the Depot notigg it was
open to ev+ecy~oue. Mr. HLsucwell sag®ued selling ads m li~~ issues be diswssed at a later meeting.
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Mr. Miellae gave out oopi~ea of as snticle notigg Hopbns' increase is real untie values.
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Concerns have boss ..~uy,a8ed about the eapimsiou of the Eider Hoa~nes~d.
Co®seosas: A resolution should be dratted Hopkins' cooeans. This should be
considered at the neat regular oouacil Eng.
The bud,~~ format will be discussed at a later session.
Motion to adjourn was made by Karen Jeamn and seconded by Gene iVLaxarell. It passed unanimously.
Mfg adjairned at 10:33 p.m.
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