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MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION -May 9, 2006
A work session of the Hopkins City Council was called to order by Mayor Gene
Maxwell at 6:30 p.m. on May 9, 2006, at the City Hall. Council members Bruce Rowan,
Kristi Halverson and Cheryl Youakim were present. City personnel present were City
Manager Rick Getschow; Economic Director Jim Kerrigan; Housing Coordinator Kersten
Elverum; and City Attorney Jerre Steiner. Also present were Dave Menke, Dave
Wisnewski, Dave Bangasser, Tom Shaver and Ericka Miller of Opus; Marlene Hunkins,
Hillary Feder, Jason Gadd, Nora Davis and John Cooley of the Marketing Committee;
Tom Bullington and Robin Lingen of CityImage Communications; and Gwen Chynoweth
of Maccabee Group.
Discussion of Excelsior Crossing (Opus) PUD Agreement
Economic Director Jim Kerrigan said the PUD (Planned Unit Development) being
discussed with Opus would overlay the business park zoning, which would allow more
flexibility as the project proceeds. A master plan would be attached to the PUD, detailing
such things as uses, density, location of common spaces, movement of traffic, etc. Opus
would be required to come before the Council for approval of each phase. Staff and
Opus have agreed that 75% would be Class B or higher office space and 25% would be
other uses such as a hotel (of at least two star quality), medical research, and retail space,
none of which would have exterior signage. No coffee shop would be allowed because of
the proximity of the Depot. Retail uses must be along Jackson Ave. or Excelsior Blvd.
There is a maximum of seven floors/105 feet for the office space and hotel, and 32 feet
for the retail building.
Ms. Youakim asked if the signage fit it with the new ordinance. Mr. Kerrigan
said the signage is above the usual Limit; Attorney Steiner said it is, however, consistent
with the new signage ordinance. Answering questions, Mr. Kerrigan said the retail would
be west of the traffic light on Excelsior Blvd. and access would be from inside the
business park, not from the Boulevard. Primary access would be from Jackson Avenue.
Opus would have to make the lot presentable after demolition of the old North Annex.
Opus has agreed to allow the city to use the 3-acre site north of Second St. for snow
storage, while it would also be used as a storm water ponding site. The feasibility of a
trail system on the north and east sides of the pond is being explored. Opus would pay
for a traffic light at the Jackson Avenue entrance if one becomes needed, Opus would
pay a $330,900 park dedication fee, with the understanding that if the trail system is put
in, that cost would be deducted from the fee up to $25,000.
Mr. Kerrigan said staff and Opus are both comfortable with the proposed PUD
terms. It would come to Zoning and Planning for review in May, and before the Council
June 6 for approval of at least the zoning and perhaps also the PUD agreement. Attorney
Steiner said he will draft the agreement. The Council will be presented with a PUD
zoning ordinance much like the first five pages of the letter they received for the work
session. Council can make changes if they want to and can impose conditions. The PUD
would memorialize the agreement and conditions. The parcel across Jackson Avenue
would also be zoned to business park with a PUD overlay.
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Answering Mayor Maxwell, Mr. Kerrigan said Benshoof had looked at the traffic
T situation and was comfortable with the agreement. Mr. Bangasser noted the parking
ramps are all oriented to Jackson Avenue. Mayor Maxwell asked about the construction
phases. Mr. Menke said that will be customer driven. Opus would like to start at the east
side and move west, but tenant desire could change that. In any case, they will landscape
as they go and have perimeter landscaping along Excelsior Blvd. The whole area will be
seeded as soon as demolition is done so the parcel will be presentable, no matter in what
order construction proceeds. Answering Ms. Youakim's question on rain gardens, Mr.
Bangasser said Opus paid much attention to infiltration. The central pond will have a
fountain to keep the water aerated. Most sediment will drop in the front ponds. The
pond north of Second will serve the whole region. The Watershed District was talked to
and they had no problems with the plan of using it for snow removal in the winter; the
pond will catch snow melt rather than the water going straight to the creek. It will benefit
the whole region, not just Opus' property. Answering Ms. Youakim, Mr. Menke said the
ramps are about 6-8 feet at the highest point; the lowest parking level has been sunk
about 3 feet. They looked into green roofs, but found it not feasible.
Mr. Menke pointed out the pedestrian bridge over the central pond with its
ornamental lighting, which will be the focal point of the project. The small retail
building will not go over 15,000 sq. ft. There will be 30 parking stalls for that building.
Mr. Kerrigan said no real concerns were expressed. The police and fire departments have
reviewed the plans.
Mr. Menke said they hope to close in August and finish demolition this year.
There is some remediation in the buildings themselves due to asbestos and some lights.
They plan to move ahead as quickly as possible as the market is starting to recover,
especially in the southwest metro area. One user wants to get in by October 2007.
Mayor Maxwell asked about publicity, noting it might help condo sales in
Hopkins. Mr. Menke said as soon as the PUD process is done, Opus' publicity team is
ready to move. City Manager Getschow noted the Star Tribune has already called.
Marketing Committee Proposals
Housing Coordinator Elverum noted the Marketing Committee had attended a
February work session. Only two marketing groups would participate in 20 minute
interviews at the work session as one could not make it. Standardized questions were
handed out.
Tom Bullington and Robin Lingen of CityImage Communications were
interviewed first. Answering questions they said branding is a " 30-second elevator
speech" that describes Hopkins. It builds community, a "sense of place" as well as
helping economic development and attracting residents. Strategies include a consistent
brand; testimonials of people who live or have businesses in Hopkins; emphasizing
landmarks such as the Depot and Center for the Arts that make Hopkins different;
developing relationships with the media. Maintaining the program can be low cost and
yet effective -media relationships, proactive residents, community events. The school
and business community can be involved as partners. Materials for community groups
and businesses to use at their events are useful. Bloomington has a packet in their hotels.
Targeting audiences is a key piece -understanding who the market is and what they
want. After the process Hopkins will have 2 or 3 variations on taglines, a 3-year
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marketing plan, and acost-effective salesmanship campaign. They would come back at
6- 9- and 12-month intervals and are willing to do more if it is desired. They have
experience dealing with diverse communities and want to make sure the brand speaks to
all of them. Diversity is not polarity, it is part of the power of the message. Hopkins has
a "Midwestern feel in an urban hip way." This can be an advantage. Mr. Cooley noted
the current effort is a partnership between the city and the business community; the latter
want to draw in customers and new businesses. Mr. Bullington noted that when he was a
news editor in a town of 150,000 that was dwindling, the business community used
antiques as a "hook," offering antique walks, etc. The town is now a bustling
community. Ms. Lingen added she has always been a small business owner and very
conscious of that need. They said the branding component and marketing development
would largely be concurrent as they get ideas as the research progresses. The main focus
is taking data, creating ideas, and doing a market plan, but they overlap. They would get
community buy-in by involving them in the process, making residents feel empowered.
They are comfortable with the idea of working with a business community-city
collaboration. Mr. Bullington noted Brooklyn Park had combined the city, faith
community, businesses, etc. and ended up one of the top 30 cities that year. Ms. Lingen
said the key message is everyone is involved.
Ms. Gwen Chynoweth of Maccabee Group also was interviewed. In response to
questions she said branding is your reason for being and the reason for your customers to
buy. Benefits would depend on how it is used, but should result in drawing customers
and new residents. Strategies include various components that can be integrated in
different ways; these include advertising, public relations, direct mail, trade shows. Any
plan has to be sustainable by internal staff and external agencies in some combinations.
She would leave the city with a comprehensive step-by-step plan that could be initiated as
desired, sort of an a la carte menu. It could be implemented as resources became
available. Regarding diversity, she said it is important to have a marketing position
statement, then tweak it to reach a particular audience. Diversity can be a benefit, but
you have to be clear whom you are targeting. It is important to have the branding in
place; then the marketing component can be done behind the scenes. Once the branding
is done, the rest can happen quickly. Getting community buy-in is a challenge. Methods
could include an Internet public forum much like a chat room, the SunSailor, the city
newsletter - it is important to leverage every form of communication Hopkins has.
Marketing needs to be based on what you want people to think of Hopkins, so you need
to know what people think so you know how to market it and bridge the difference.
Hopkins is not what it was 10 years ago, yet she feels people think of Hopkins as it was
in the 1970's. We need to describe Hopkins as it is and how the targeted people can
benefit from it. If there is no current research on what people think, a short survey should
be done. The combination of city and business community is much like the Minnesota
Office of Tourism, which combines all the many things of the state into one message. It
is important to have a liaison from both groups to work with her company. Maccabee
Group does not have its own graphic department but has close ties with free lancers and
agencies. Ms. Youakim noted Maccabee billed by the hour. Ms. Chynoweth said she
estimated three modest community sessions as 2-3 hours and the consensus and branding
as 15 hours. Ms. Elverum added they had already indicated they would sign a "not to
exceed" contract. Ms. Chynoweth added they promise "no surprises" and give a 20%
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discount for communities. If they go over budget, Hopkins would not need to worry
about it. Answering Mayor Maxwell, she said she would be the lead person throughout
and not hand it over to someone who doesn't know Hopkins as she does. She asked what
timeline Hopkins has and had sustainability been discussed; Ms. Elverum said maybe
three months as a timeline. There is $15,000 budgeted between the business community
and the City. The plan cannot entirely rely on city staff but on volunteers and has to be
cost effective. Ms. Chynoweth said that was possible; it would not be full-blown, but
with a targeted audience it could be done. Ms. Youakim asked if a phone or write-in
survey would be better. Ms. Chynoweth said phone surveys are preferable because one
can probe. Online surveys are becoming more popular, but results are skewed. Ms.
Youakim suggested doing the survey at the Raspberry Festival, which draws many
outsiders. Answering Mayor Maxwell, Ms. Chynoweth said doing campaigns in the
summer is tough as so many people are vacationing.
General discussion followed among the Council and Marketing Committee
members. General Consensus was that the third company would not be pursued. Ms.
Feder's suggestion of drawing up a very specific list of what is wanted and what the
group's expectations are, then having the companies "line item" it was accepted. Mayor
Maxwell said he feels it is most important for the business community to feel comfortable
with the choice as the Council could work with either. The Marketing Committee needs
to decide what role they want the city to play.
Ms. Elverum thanked the committee members for their efforts and time.
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Ms. Halverson asked about obtaining photos of the Citizens' Academy graduation
and was told to contact Mr. Genellie.
Mr. Rowan noted he would miss the June 20 and 27 meetings.
Mr. Getschow reminded everyone the next work session would be at the Hopkins
Center for the Arts in the second floor conference room at 6:00 so Council members
could attend the GED graduation. Food will be provided.
Ms. Youakim told Mr. Getschow Steve Simon should be called tomorrow on the
tort limit bill.
He reminded the Council that next Thursday is the Take Back the Park
celebration in Cottageville.
He announced NORC has been notified they will get a state grant which will carry
them through 2007.
Mayor Maxwell noted the most recent newsletter included with the utility bill was
the best one in a long time.
There was a brief discussion of the Fox 9 news report about a neighborhood
dispute.
On motion by Ms. Halverson and second by Ms. Youakim the meeting adjourned
at 9:50 p.m. on a vote of 4-0.
Kasey Kester, Secretary
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