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MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION -June 28, 2005
A work session of the Hopkins City Council was called to order by Mayor Gene
Maxwell at 6:35 p.m. on June 28, 2005, at the City Hall. Council members Brausen,
Johnson, Rowan and Thompson were present. City personnel present were City Manager
Rick Getschow, Housing Coordinator Kersten Elverum, Economic Development Director
Jim Kerringan, City Attorneys Bob Dieke and Jerre Steiner, Public Works Director Steve
Stadler, and Finance Director Chris Harkess. Also present were Rebecca Kurtz of Ehlers
& Associates and Bob Lindall of Kennedy & Graven. In the audience were Steve
Flanagan of GPS Development; David Kirkman, attorney for Mr. Flanagan; Fred Katter,
consultant for Flanagan; and Tim Kelly, representing Park Plaza.
Approval of Liquor License Application, Jack Yee's
City Manager Getschow said the application was received after the regular
meeting in June. The city agreed to process the application at the work session so there
would be no interruption of service.
Mr. Thompson moved to approve the wine and 3.2 beer license application,
including strong beer for Jack Yees' Restaurant with the condition that the Police
Department approves the license. Mr. Brausen seconded. Passed 5-0.
Block 64
Economic Development Director Kerrigan said he wished to update Council on
• TIF District 1-3 as concerns were expressed at the meeting last week. This is scheduled
for the July 5 meeting, and he wanted the city's attorneys to detail discussions that have
taken place, strategies, time table, etc.
Attorney Lindall said he would represent Hopkins if needed for eminent domain
or the TIF district. The property owner has sent a letter on the building condition report;
he feels it is desirable to respond to that; LHB should review that letter. An owner can
choose to oppose an eminent domain action associated with a TIF district on the grounds
the TIF was not properly founded. He would like a stronger basis in the public record so
recommends continuing the public hearing July 19. Since it was closed, he suggests
scheduling a new hearing so the owner cannot say the Council did not have the right to
reopen a closed hearing. Another developer, Spyder Development, is competing for a
chance to develop the Park Plaza property. While he is experienced, the Council has said
it wants to develop all of Block 64. A request has been made for specified materials to be
supplied by Park Plaza and Spyder Development, as well as asking permission to
reinspect the property, all by July 8. They said they had not received a copy of the TIF
plan and development agreement; those have been sent to them. He has handled a case
much like this in which the Court agreed the competing developer did not meet the city's
objectives; this is something the city will need to think about. He said the process could
take 12-18 months. This could have significant financial impacts, especially for the
security to be provided by the developer. The second developer has offered $6.7 million,
while the city had an appraisal of $3.5 million. It is difficult to see how the larger amount
could be paid and still get the kind of development the city wants. It is important to see a
copy of the purchase agreement.
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Answering Council questions, Attorney Lindall said a reinspection of the property
~• is desirable as the inspector had only a brief time allowed him the first time; if he had a
longer time, he could check what the owner says in his letter. If no response is received to
the information request, it would be made clear in the public record. A lack of response
would raise issues as to whether the developer could finance the project. Mr. Kerrigan
said that if the TIF district is challenged, it will affect more than Block 64. The city
attorney is presently checking to see if a TIF would be possible for just the Honda
property. Attorney Dieke commented that even if the second developer is viable, the city
has the choice to accept his proposal or not. Mr. Lindall said an important consideration
is if his plan would reach the city's objectives for the property. Another is if the city feels
he has the ability to obtain the necessary land control. Attorney Steiner said he agrees
with Attorney Lindall's suggestions about the hearing, even though he feels there was
enough for proper findings at the last meeting. Mr. Kerrigan said on July 5 the Council
will be asked to approve a motion to schedule July 19 to consider a resolution on the TIF
district. Staff will get comments from LHB on the owner's letter and will continue to
work with GPS on the development agreement. He added this could be a costly venture.
Mr. Lindall noted the League of Minnesota Cities often covers defenses of TIF; even if
the city wants its own personal "shadow," it would cut expenses.
Mayor Maxwell commented that one of the city's major goals has been the
redevelopment of this area. Attorneys Steiner and Lindall and Mr. Kerrigan commented
financing will be an issue if the project is delayed.
CIP Final Review
• Finance Director Harkess said the major change from the last draft is she moved
Excelsior Blvd. work large4ly out of the MSA fund and-to the PIR fund. Another major
project is scheduled for 2009 (Shady Oak Road) that affects the MSA fund. It is not
likely Hopkins could get advance funding on the MSA allocation; but a bond against
future allocations is a possible scenario, in which case MSA money would be used for
bond payments.
The PIR fund will need bonding in 2006, which would also help cover 2007.
There are significant projects in 2008 and 2009. Projects can be private as the city needs
to front the money, and then assess to get it back. Mr. Getschow commented the
assessment revenue estimates are conservative. Mayor Maxwell asked if it was planned
to assess for Shady Oak, noting no assessments were made for Excelsior Blvd. Mr.
Getschow said no assessments were put in the budget.
Mr. Getschow said he feels comfortable with the project list. Mayor Maxwell
asked about the Historical Society roof replacement, suggesting staff check with
Renaissance Court to see if they would be doing theirs; perhaps the city could save
money if both were done together. Mr. Stadler said he would check with them. Ms.
Johnson asked about the sign master plan. Mr. Stadler said this is not putting up actual
signs, but hiring a consultant and developing a plan that would include, branding, how to
show the city best, etc. The `figure he used is low compared to other cities. Mr. Brausen
asked about the pavilion sign. Ms. Johnson wondered who would decide what goes on it.
Mr. Stadler said Council would develop the policy for messaging. Mr. Getschow said
staff would try to get matching funds from the school district, youth hockey, etc. Mr.
• Brausen asked who would decide on the HCA carpet. Mr. Stadler said probably Jay, with
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~ input from the tenants. Mayor Maxwell asked about the concrete alleys. Mr. Stadler said
•~ those are paid 80% by assessment and 20% from storm sewer funds. Concrete alley
repair costs about $14,000 a year. Ms. Johnson said she hopes the trail connections do not
get put off again. Mayor Maxwell asked about the. trail signs. Mr. Stadler said they were
not ordered due to the uncertainty about the area south of Excelsior Blvd. Now there is a
better definition of where the signs should go.
Ms. Harkess commented that this is simply a plan. If bids come in too high, then
the Council could re-decide. Adjustments can also be made when the budget is done. She
will present the plan at the July 5 meeting.
Public Works Pre-Budget
Public Works Director Stadler said the reorganization has gone well. Efficiency
has improved, though not enough to make up for 3 lost positions.
Major requests include re-establishment of one streets and parks position.
Reasons to hire another person include: outsourcing pavement work has not been
successful as there seems to be no interest from bidders; storm sewer catch basin repairs
need to be started again; winter sidewalk maintenance can't be met; loss of a position for
one week a month due to training someone into the water/sewer system. Cost would be
$47,000-$58,000. He also needs to add another person to utilities. The workload has
grown due to NPDES regulations. Three of the four workers are due to retire within 5
years; someone needs to get trained in. Cost would be $62,000 once the person is trained
and licensed. Requests for building/equipment maintenance include a fire alarm central
reporting system ($7000), tire changer ($3500), City Hall boiler controls upgrade to meet
industry standards ($3000); energy management system for HCA ($5000). Mayor
Maxwell noted the last item makes sense. While not on his request list, Mr. Stadler noted
Jay would like to bring Allen back on Mondays ($8500) and added the Sunday church
rentals add $20-30,000 annual revenue. Streets and parks requests include upgrading
downtown planted areas, a ballfield drag, 11 seasonal workers. He would like to start an
upgrade program for Trace radio-read meters. The $22,500 is the cost to establish the
program, get hardware, train personnel. Batteries would be replaced as they wear out; the
new ones would last 20 years and don't require an FCC license.
Mayor Maxwell said he's not willing to add personnel yet. Mr. Getschow noted
no numbers have been done for the budget yet; the purpose of pre-budget talks is to
provide information. Ms. Harkess noted the cost for the parks person would come from
the general fund; for the utilities person, from the utilities fund. Mr. Stadler said the
utilities position really concerns him; if he can't hire someone new, he will have to move
in someone from another area. Ms. Johnson asked if seasonal workers could shovel snow;
Mr. Stadler says steady winter workers are hard to get as seasonal workers are usually
college students.
Unimproved Alley Vacation
Public Works Director Stadler said the alley right-of-way vacation under
discussion is between 19~' and 21S` Avenues North and 2°d and 3`d Streets North.
Encroachments include fences, retaining walls and one garage. There is clearly no public
purpose in retaining the ROW other than the overhead utility line which would remain
within a utility easement. One owner is contending in conciliation court that present
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condition of the ROW decreases his property value. Vacation could cause disputes
• between property owners, yet continued city ownership carries potentially increasing
liability. Three options are to do nothing; to proceed with vacation after notifying
property owners and informing them of the potential for encroachment issues with
abutting property owners; or -what staff "reluctantly recommends" -sending letters to
owners whose encroachments extend over the ROW centerline telling them they must
correct them within one year and then proceed with vacation. Answering Council
questions he said statute requires even division of the ROW; 3 properties have
encroachment problems. Mr. Getschow said one possibility is for the city to facilitate a
meeting of owners to work out encroachment problems. Mayor Maxwell wondered if the
city could send a letter saying the city would vacate if the owners could work things out
but will not vacate the ROW if residents can't agree. Mr. Thompson and Mr. Rowan felt
the city should go ahead with the vacation as encroachments should not have occurred.
General discussion followed.
General Consensus .was Mr. Stadler-should send out letters, with specific detailed
letters to owners with potential problems. City staff would indicate where the center line
would be, with the understanding this is not a legal survey but to help owners understand
where the division would approximately be. It can be indicated the city does intend to
vacate the right of way.
Third Street North Unimproved Righ-of--way Vacation Request
Public Works Director Stadler said Mark Van Oort, 301 20t'' Ave. N. has
requested the city vacate the 30' x 135' section of 3`d St. N. between 19th and 20t" Aves.
Because of a previous vacation, his neighbor would actually receive the vacated land, but
he has an agreement with his neighbor to acquire the property. There are no utilities in
the ROW. However, a review showed that pedestrians do use the ROW to reach Hilltop
Park. Staff suggests a letter be sent to the residential area that is most likely to use this
access and request input.
Mayor Maxwell said 2 people have approached him about vacating on 21St; it
would be difficult to refuse them if this is granted. He added he doesn't think the city can
make people go an extra block to get to the park. Mr. Thompson said it would make a
big difference if he knew what neighborhood input would be.
General Consensus was to do as staff suggested and send a letter requesting
neighborhood input.
2005-6 Goals
City Manager Getschow asked for comments and additions to the goals. Under
Goal I (Improving Communication and Marketing Efforts) Mr. Thompson suggested that
Action 8 be clarified as to how community could get the summary of economic
development, suggesting a copy at city hall, the library, etc. Discussing Goal II (Growth
of Employees, Supervisors and City Council), Mr. Brausen commented he served 14
years in various positions with no training, except some League of Minnesota Cities
events, and no feedback or evaluation on how he was doing. Ms. Johnson remarked basic
understanding of Roberts Rules of Order would be good. Concerning Action 2 Mayor
Maxwell said he has received positive feedback on the Planning and Zoning training.
Mr. Getschow said he is putting together a committee to work on employee evaluation.
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Commenting on Goal IIC (Feedback Systems for Council), Mr. Brausen and Ms. Johnson
said this was a real need, especially in understanding each other. Ms. Johnson asked if
the Council could get copies of the employee newsletter (Action 12). Ms. Johnson
suggested that an action "Review contract employees (at set times to be specified)" be
added under Goal III (Improve the Budget Process). Regarding Goal IV (Improve Quality
of Life in Hopkins), Ms. Johnson suggested bike racks be added to Action 15. Mayor
Maxwell said Action 20 had been accomplished and could be removed. For Goal V
(Citizen Growth and Development) Ms. Johnson suggested publicizing elections on the
web site and Mr. Rowan added the Citizens' Academy.
Mr. Getschow commented it looks like the Citizens' Academy will be similar to
what was done before. A city monthly column will start in the Sun Sailor in July; they
had expressed concern about elected officials doing the column. He suggested having
Chief Reid, etc. do some of the columns. Mayor Maxwell commented it would be nice to
have one explaining TIF districts and how they work.
General Consensus was Mr. Getschow should bring the Goals document before
the Council on July 5 or July 19.
Other
Ms. Johnson asked about a car being hit by the city. Mr. Getschow said a
contractor may have hit a resident's car, but there is no certainty he did. The city cannot
guarantee the contractor will pay when no one is sure he did it.
Mr. Thompson asked about the policy on park dedication fees in relation to lot
splits, noting Shorewood and Minnetonka have such a fee if a split results in buildable
~; lots. Mr. Getschow said he will look into it, adding Shorewood and Minnetonka's
provision is unusual.
Mr. Rowan asked about the Qwest cable on Mainstreet. Mr. Getschow said there
is a meeting on Thursday and he will ask them why they are retrofitting old material.
Mayor Maxwell commented if Qwest doesn't have an easement, they should be paying
for the moving of the cable.
Mr. Rowan asked how many water meters have been replaced voluntarily. Mr.
Getschow will find out.
Mr. Brausen asked if there have been any revenue changes due to water meter
replacement. A teacher from Harley Hopkins school approached him about signage; he
told her to be specific where she' wanted signage. He said he has noticed some of the
seasonal workers just sitting around, doing nothing. Mayor Maxwell said he has had a
couple complaints about that also.
Mayor Maxwell asked if Council members were planning to go to the National
League of Cities December 6-10. Mr. Rowan, Mr. Brausen, Mr. Thompson and Mayor
Maxwell all were interested. Mr. Getschow said early registration saves money.
Mr. Getschow said a group wants the mayor's support for Haiti and asked for
feedback. The Charter Commission is now filled. Chemical Health is still short of
people and Police Chief Reid wonders if it should be combined with Reduce the Use. Ms.
Johnson suggested staff get input from Kathy. Pat Sanders has put together a screening
plan in response to the city's letter.
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.s- Ms. Johnson moved adjournment. Mr. Thompson seconded. On a 5-0 vote the
meeting adjourned at 10:05 p.m.
Kasey Kester, Secretary
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Eugen axwell, Mayor