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MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION - Apri18, 2008
A work session of the Hopkins City Council was called to order by Mayor Gene Maxwell
at 6:30 p.m. on April 8, 2008, at the Hopkins City Hall. Council members Rick Brausen, Kristi
Halverson, Bruce Rowan and Cheryl Youalcim were present. City staff present were City
Manager Riclc Getschow, City Planner Nancy Anderson, Director of Planning Kersten Elverum,
Police Chief Craig Reid, Police Services Liaison Ann Buck, and Police Community Liaison
Tsehai Wodajo. Also present were Cheryl Holm-Hansen, and Monica Idzelis of Wilder
Foundation; Tom Schirber, consultant to Wilder; Marlc Koegler of Hoisington and Koegler; Tom
Jenny, Bob Hattlestad, Kyle Skiermont, Patrick Beddor. Kathy Newcomb and Linda Flynn of the
Zoning and Planning Commission and Molly Cummings of the Park Board.
Wilder Foundation Report on Blake Road Corridor
Police Chief Reid noted the assessment being discussed at this meeting would be given to
the Collaborative Wednesday. In 2005 the city, schools and Hennepin County started to form a
stakeholder group for the Blake Road Corridor because this community was not involved with
the city, youth were isolated from existing programs, and there was a crime rate higher than the
rest of the city. Short-term steps included increased police (not only increased police hours, but
Ann Buck revitalized Neighborhood Watch), which resulted in the crime rate going down. The
stakeholder group grew to over 60 people; in 2006 he and City Manager Getschow approached
Wilder Foundation to develop along-term solution.
Ms. Idzelis said Wilder used interviews with 383 Corridor residents, an online survey
completed by 40 of the Collaborative members, five focus groups with 43 participants, review of
police and school data and a review of other revitalization efforts. Core concerns were crime and
safety, limited recreation opportunities, absence of a community center, limited screening of
renters, poor lighting and unsafe walking areas, and limited access to social services. The
interview data highlighted a great divergence of views. About 80% of the Collaborative
members rated the standard of living in the Corridor "poor"; only 16% of the residents did.
Property crime concerned 83% of the whites, but only 30-43% of the others; 73% of the long-
term residents but 46% of short-term residents; and 74% of property owners but only 45% of the
renters. Strengths that were noted were schools and police, which were rated positively by over
90% of all groups. Crime and safety had varying results: over 90% felt safe in the daytime; 73%
of the Collaborative but only 33% of the residents felt unsafe at night. Some saw crime as
having increased while police records show it has decreased notably. All collaborative members
felt drugs, fighting, domestic violence and gangs were problems. While residents listed them as
problems, the percentages were much lower and there was less consensus on what was most
serious. Only 26-35% of the residents were concerned about the lack of a park or community
center; very few used existing parks because they did not know they existed. The Collaborative
saw the big housing issues as poor tenant screening and absentee landlords; the residents listed
affordable housing, maintenance, and 40% mentioned poor screening. Wilder recommendations
include continuation of the Collaborative or a similar group; increase in access to social services
and recreational programming for older youth; improvement of lighting and sidewalks; and
increased landlord accountability.
Mr. Schirber said his role was to pull together the information, find where the leadership
was, and then look at the potential for along-term model. He said the participants made a huge
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commitment and made his job much easier. He can't be as specific as he would like because of
the lack of community consensus. He noted a funder will come tomorrow to the stakeholder
meeting. He sees the objectives as increased resident engagement; reduction of crime; reduction
of resident turnover; enhancing family stability; enhancing personal growth; improving resident
ownership; and improving relations with the surrounding community. His recommendations
were: continue a stakeholder group; establish a timeline for goals and objectives; identify a lead
agency (a nonprofit, outside agency or new group which would oversee fundraising and
implementation and also work with the stakeholder group); identify outside partners (the funders
for this study would be a good start); establish programming through a strategic planning
process; develop a funding plan; establish a plan for community space; development planning;
organization of resident participation (a requirement for most grants); improved
tenant/landowner participation. He feels a groundwork has been laid.
Ms. Youakim noted the difference perceptions of the Collaborative and residents requires
a two-prong approach: change perceptions and address needs. Mr. Getschow noted the "pools"
of respondents were about 30 for the Collaborative and 300 for residents. Mr. Rowan noted
Collaborative members compared the area to where they live. Mr. Jenny added most residents
see Blake Road Corridor as a big step up from where they were. Ms. Flynn noted the high
resident turnover will make resident participation a tough proposition. Chief Reid said the first
summer programs got a low response at first. When one-on-one explanations were given,
residents participated. Flyers do not work as many of these residents do not read English. At
Eisenhower School there is a new student admitted every single day. If turnover could be
reduced, more progress could be made. If youth can be engaged, then parents get involved. Ms.
Youakim said youth needs are obvious; but in reaching them we must not forget that increasing
home ownership also helps them. Mayor Maxwell asked about demographics by age; Chief
Reid said the school has those by age. Mayor Maxwell said further demographics would be
helpful -there is a big difference in needs between 25- and 73-year-olds. Answering Ms.
Youakim, Chief Reid said he could get data for the percentage of residents with children in
school. Ms. Wodajo added resident views of the school system are based on what was available
where they emigrated from. Ms. Buck noted while there are no concrete demographics for
residents, the large pool of respondents was a fair cross-section. Mr. Brausen felt the big issue is
getting the residents to connect with the community. Residents not knowing what is available is
an age-old issue that needs to be addressed. Ms. Holm-Hansen said the deciding factor is face-
to-face contacts. Ms. Flynn asked if landlords could be one mechanism; Chief Reid said some
apartment managers are very cooperative, other owners just collect checks. The changes in the
rental ordinance may help. Answering Mayor Maxwell, Ms. Anderson said Hop-a-Ride buses
many English-as-second-language students; she can check on other resident uses. Ms. Flynn
said most residents don't feel their quality of life is poor; is there a way to communicate that to
outsiders? Mr. Schirber cautioned the results of the survey are not static and could be different
in a year. A lead agency would be able to keep up-to-date. The many foreclosures taking place
will change the renters picture. Mr. Hattlestad suggested community groups and the Human
Rights Commission would be good places for Blake Corridor residents to serve as liaisons. He
added the strip mall at Blalce and Excelsior could be a good place to post information in the
residents' languages as it gets heavy foot traffic. Ms. Youakim added that might be a good site
for a temporary community center. Answering Mayor Maxwell, Mr. Schirber said getting a lead
agency is the top priority as most funders require there be one; it would oversee both financing
and management. Secondly, the advisory group should continue. Mr. Getschow noted any
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funder should be in the advisory group. Ms. Flynn noted the $50,000 planning grant had come
from Minneapolis Community Foundation. Answering Mayor Maxwell, Mr. Schirber said this
project is not being designed for only Blake Corridor; this will become a model for any city area
that needs help in the future. Chief Reid said he has always looked on this work as a model. He
added that just three drug arrests had greatly eased crime problems. Tschai works with all new
residents, not just Blalce Corridor newcomers. It is essential that the positive results achieved so
far stay. Bus transportation is a huge expense and the police will soon have used all their grant
money for extra police hours. Hopkins needs to find a way to keep these services. Mr.
Getschow said we will now be moving into the next step -implement the study. Mayor
Maxwell suggested the Council meet with the stakeholder group that meets Wednesday. Mr.
Getschow agreed that is a good idea.
Comprehensive Plan
City Planner Anderson said staff had Met with the ad hoc committee Monday, who gave
comments. She emphasized that the Council would be looking at a first draft and that more parts
still need to be written. Answering Mayor Maxwell, she said parts as they are finalized would be
put on the city web site. Mr. Koegler said this information would also be taken to the open
house on May 21. He added the ad hoc committee had interesting suggestions. All sections of
this comp plan build on the past plan; lcey initiatives are land use, housing and transportation
(especially regarding LRT). Corridor issues were looked at closely as they are the areas
outsiders see and judge Hopkins by.
Land Use. Mr. Koegler urged Council to look at the goals and guidelines to see if they
are what the Council wants. A couple things are different from before: land use categories have
been changed; there is a mixed-use category that looks at the three proposed LRT station areas.
He noted the "barbell connections" along 8t" and Excelsior Blvd. mean many people don't see
downtown. There are eight planning districts; land use follows those paraMeters. Some have
itemized goals; some do not. The comp plan covers Blake Road area, but the preceding
discussion makes him think it will need to be revised and "beefed up" to help obtain financing
for that area. The Atlas Cold Storage plat has a changed designation; the mixed use would be
mostly residential. He emphasized the changes in designation are not designed to move industry
out; they supply essential job opportunities. Answering Ms. Halverson, Ms. Anderson said the
B-2 classification is for just along Excelsior Blvd.; the East End calls for mixed use. Ms.
Elverum said she would really like to see Cottageville Park expanded. Ms. Youakim noted the
200,000 figure on page 1-9 should be 20,000. She noted the importance of thinking about the
expansion of bio-sciences in the future. Mr. Koegler noted that page 1-24 shows the change
from industrial to mixed use around the LRT station areas. Ms. Newcomb commented
abbreviations such as TH (trunk highway) should be explained and nomenclature be consistent.
Mr. Getschow pointed out the landfill on page 1-20, saying he is not sure if it should be classed
institutional as it may have other commercial uses. As this is the only site in the city of its kind,
language will be important in getting grants. Ms. Anderson said perhaps public use could be
added to the classification. Mayor Maxwell said public use would be his choice as the area abuts
residential areas. Answering Mr. Beddor and Ms. Flynn, Ms. Elverum said changes to include
more explanations would make it easier to attract developers. Mr. Getschow noted the narrative
on page 1-20 was excellent and did a good job discussing constraints. Ms. Youakim said the last
sentence on page 1-27 may need to be "fleshed out."
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Downtown. Mr. Koegler noted this section was basically just updated. Mr. Jenny
discussed the appropriateness of advocating for a downtown grocery store to remain. Mayor
Maxwell said a piece on how important certain types of businesses are for downtown as a
livable, walkable community could be added. Mr. Koegler agreed. Mr. Brausen noted lack of
traffic is a liability, yet increased traffic might cause a loss of the "downtown" atmosphere. Ms.
Elverum said the city would like the businesses to have a unified voice, but it is hard to do. Ms.
Youakim noted the first paragraph on 2-5 mentions 7th to 12th Avenues; Mayor Maxwell said that
needs to be changed. Ms. Youakim also said the inclusion of St. Joseph's parking lot should be
deleted as they have that lot in their improvement plan. A general discussion of the definition of
"downtown" followed. General Consensus was to extend the definition to Shady Oak Road. Mr.
Brausen suggested the solution might be to expand, the definition, adding "overlay" definitions to
protect what Hopkins has in the core downtown area.
Housing. Mr. Koegler suggested Council review goals to see if they are what the Council
wants. He noted Met Council has set a target for Hopkins of 143 more units by 2020, which had
to be reflected in the Plan. Ms. Elverum noted aging of apartment buildings needs to be
addressed. Mr. Brausen asked why only some neighborhoods were designated on 3-16,
shouldn't all be? Mr. Koegler said planners had discussed it the map should be included at all.
Mr. Getschow agreed it should be all or none. Answering Ms. Youakim, Mr. Koegler said 2000
statistics are used because those are the most recent available. Ms. Youakim suggested the
section on housing improvement districts on 3-2 should include Cottageville; Ms. Elverum said
more community cohesion is needed to do that. Ms. Youakim, referring to the goals on page 3-
4, said she feels height of new buildings can be an encroachment on single-family homes.
Mayor Maxwell said defining boundaries is part of that issue. Answering Ms. Youakim, Mr.
Koegler said the figure of 1000 new residents by 2030 on page 3-7 is a Met Council projection.
Commenting on the graphs on page 3 -11, Ms. Elverum said she thinks people are willing to pay
more to live in Hopkins.
Parks. Mr. Koegler said the Parlc Board had worked on this section. Park land is
basically set for the city, so emphasis is on watching trends and population changes. They see
the issues as regional trails, Minnehaha Park expansion, and expanding Cottageville Parlc.
Mayor Maxwell commented Cottageville is small; Oakes Park is nearby. Mr. Getschow asked if
the issue is crossing Blake Road. Ms. Elverum said she feels that Cottageville needs an amenity
to center around, even if it requires taking out apartment buildings. Mr. Jenny said access to
Minnehaha Creels would also help the area. Mr. Getschow noted money may be available for
clearing and opening access to the creek. Ms. Elverum noted access at the Atlas site would be
private; Cottageville would be public. Ms. Youakim noted 4-10 couples well with 4-16 #2, but
language should not be "such as" but "as well as." Ms. Newcomb suggested the chart on 4-4 and
map on 4-11 be put closer together.
Ms. Anderson said the next step is review by Zoning and Planning at the April 22
meeting. At the May 21 open house there will be public comment. Then the final draft can be
worked on. Mr. Koegler added there would be another meeting with the Council before it is
submitted to neighboring cities and the Met Council.
Bed-and-Breakfast Businesses Ms. Anderson said staff is looking at the issue of amending the
ordinances to allow bed-and-breakfast businesses in residential areas. Staff is proposing to limit
special events to one per calendar month. They would require on-site parking; owners/managers
would need to live on-site. They would like feedback. Ms. Flynn commented she did not feel
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this would be a big issue as most houses in Hopkins are small; limiting length of stay would
prevent boarding house problems. Answering Mayor Maxwell, Ms. Anderson said they would
serve only breakfasts to guests and would need to meet Minnesota licensing requirements for
food service. Answering Ms. Youalcim, she said there would be a distance requirement, but she
did not remember what it is. The issue will be on a future Council agenda; she will be sure
information goes out in Friday's update. Ms. Elverum noted this could be a marketing
promotion, adding the Marketing Committee had first suggested the idea. Mayor Maxwell
suggested staff talk to Excelsior who had bed-and-breakfasts at one time.
Other
Ms. Halverson asked about the updated plan for Excelsior Crossing. Mr. Getschow said
Opus would need to submit a new AUAR, but the percentage of change is not large.
Mr. Rowan said he would not be present next week.
Mr. Getschow said the TIF bill is moving ahead. Staff is putting the final paperwork
together.
Mr. Getschow briefly suggested other sites for work sessions. There will be full
discussion at a later work session.
Mr. Brausen said Planning & Zoning had been doing a great j ob.
On motion by Mr. Brausen and second by Ms. Youalcim, the meeting adjourned at 9:50
p.m. on a vote of 5-0.
Kasey Kester, Secretary
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Eugen J. xwell, Mayor