Minutes - 09/25/01 Work Session
September 25, 2001
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., MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION - SEPTEMBER 25, 2001
A special HRA meetingof the Hopkins City Council was held at 6:30 .p.m. and a work
session at 7:00 p.m. on September 25, 2001, at the City Hall. Council members present were
Mayor Maxwell and Council members Brausen, Hesch, Jensen and Johnson. City personnel
present were Assistant City Manager Genellie, City Manager Assistant Stahmer, Economic
Development Director' Kerrigan, Housing Coordinator Elverum, Finance Director Yager, Fire
Chief Beckering, Assistant Chief Specken and Assistant Chief Shoberg.
SPECIAL BRA MEETING
Mr. Kerrigan said that there would be a meeting October 9 which would involve the
Council with developing the development agreement. Sid Inman will also be at that meeting.
Mayor Maxwell said he had talked to David Luther, who said he wanted to see the project done
and who seemed to understand the project better after talking to the mayor.
Answering Mayor Maxwell, Mr. Kerrigan said things that could be included in the
preliminary development agreement would be time schedules, defining the. site, preparing
elevations, public meetings, outline of public input process, marketing study, financing, threshOlds
needed for pre-sales and pre-leases. He noted this is a non-binding agreement for 90-120 days,
,during which time either side can back out. After that, a full development agreement would be
dra.wn up. Answering Ms. Hesch, he said that type of retail was covered in the draft.. He will try
to haye a rough draft. to the Council next Tuesday.
! Ms. Jensen said she wanted on record as she was not at last meeting that she wanted Beard
because she felt they met their first criteria better - understanding Hopkins, ability to work with
the community, understanding Mainstreet, a better retail piece. She felt the retail was crucial. She
added in a perfect world Beard would do the retail and Cornerstone the residential, which cannot
be done.
Ms. Hesch said she felt Cornerstone was more a "package." She has mixed feelings about
Pfefferkorn being involved.
Ms. Hesch moved Beard be accepted as developer. Ms. Jensen seconded. Failed 2-3.
Ms. Hesch moved to accept Cornerstone but not Cornerstone/Pfefferkorn as a package.
Ms. Jensen seconded. Mr. Kerrigan said they called themselves a "development team." Ms.
Elverum said she thinks they consider themselves a partnership. Mr. Brausen said he felt it would
jeopardize the whole deal. Vote was called for and defeated 2-3.
Ms. Johnson moved to accept Cornerstone as proposed. Mr. Brausen seconded. Ms.
Jensen said that at the first meeting she had specifically asked if housing and retail could be made
separate and they had said yes three times. Vote called. Passed 3-1 with Ms. Hesch abstaining.
Ms. Hesch moved adjournment of the HRA session. Ms. Johnson seconded. Adjourned to
regular Council meeting at 7:00 p.m.
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WORK SESSION
Budget Discussion
Fire Department
Chief Beckering said since he, Dave Klocek and George Magda! are all nearing retirement,
they have started training replacements. Thus Dale Specken and Rodney Shoberg are now
Assistant Chiefs, under the evaluation of Dave and George. They were given the job to prepare
the budget as part of their training. Mr. Specken said they proposed part -time pay be increased as
this workload is becoming heavier, not just drills. Maintenance mcrease is due to Engine 3
starting to cost money (due for replacement in 2003). Other increases are largely due to inflation.
The capital expenditure was, for a new $6,000 proxima projector as the present one is fixed in the
ceiling and at least 6 years old. The department needs a portable unit. Mr. Shoberg said there is a
need for an air. compressor and dryer for the station as some trucks do not have driers and small
compressors are breaking down. . This could be moved to the new building.
Council asked for comments on issues raised by the terrorist attacks of September 11.
Chief Beckering said compliance issues are becoming more complicated. They will be doing more
spot checks. He said he felt security measures in place and emergency plans are adequate for
present. Federal money may be forthcoming if needed. Hopkins is a member of the regional
team, which is funded by the state, so would be involved if a terrorist attack came in the area, and
they are making plans. Hopkins has $40,000 of 'chemical assessment equipment paid by the
federal government, and could be called as far away as Duluth. He added the 1 ton chlorine tanks
at the water plant are not an issue; it is small, portable ones that must be guarded more closely.
Ms. Hesch said she would like to see a vulnerability study done. Ms. Jensen agreed. Mr.
Beckering said vulnerable groups also need protection, such as Moslems in 'the community. Mr.
Brausen said this would be a good time to step up public education in such things as CPR.
Chief Beckering said the legislature has talked about 302 "hazardous handling" facilities.
He is a member of the Counter-Terrorism Advisory Council. The federal members have said to
expect 3-4 more terrorist attacks this year. Foot-and-mouth disease control plans are being put in
place as this could affect urban food supplies. . He added the flag at. the fire station will stay at
half-mast 30 days in honor of the firefighters who died in New York City.
General Consensus: Chief Beckering should talk to Public Works Director. Stadler and
Police Chief Reid and see if they can come up with a monetary figure for a vulnerability study.
Community Services
Mr. Genellie said there were no large changes. The biggest change. is to fund the 2002
election and pay for the maintenance cost for the voting machines supplied by Hennepin County .
$15,000 is to digitize and index all the paper records. Council reaction to this idea was very
positive. Mr.' Genellie said the police are very interested in having schematics of all buildings
available to police car units, which this system could do. He said that staff is also considering a
"mirror image" hook-up with Public Works so in case of a disaster there would be two locations
with complete computer records. Otherwise all costs follow historical usage.
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Administration, Finance, Council
The biggest difference here was a 15 % increase in pay for Information Services to meet
market competition. Other changes were changes in charge-outs, and due to inflation.
In summary Ms. Yager said that departments have requested $587,000 in increases which
would take the budget to the full 9.8% levy. Answering Ms. Jensen a 8.50/0 levy would mean
$80,000 decrease in the budget. The biggest reasons for the tighter budget is the loss of$40,000 in
state aid, the HRA bond levy for economic development (replacing TIP), and $90,000 to support
HCA. Ms. Johnson noted it would be important to show the public spending has not increased
except in these three areas. Ms. Yager said she will be coming back with a list of things of"cuttable
items," after working with City Manager Mielke and department heads.
There was general discussion on the $92,000 for solely operating costs at RCA. Ms. Jensen
said she wants to see a breakdown of these expenses before Mr. Strachota comes to the Council.
Newspaper Dispensers
Assistant to City Manager Stahmer explained his memo updating the May discussion. Last
week he counted 24 racks between 6th and 13th on Mainstreet, with 12 of those between 8th and 9th.
Ten were free employment weeklies, five from the same source. A draft ordinance was included in
the packet. He talked to Wynn Curtis who said forbidding newspaper dispensers in residential areas
should be done by specific zoning codes. The requirement of 5 feet clear sidewalk may be more
feasible as sidewalks'are usually narrower in residential areas. Another thought is requiring 500 feet
between dispensers of the same publication (every other block). He will be mapping a 2-3 block area
of Main street in the next couple weeks showing how each possibility would block out space to see
what limitations would work and what would not. Ms. 'Hesch suggested that benches be included in
limitation 5. Mr. Stahmer said a prohibition for in front ofHCA is possible according to Mr. Curtis.
Mr. Genellie said they would talk to St. Paul and see what affect their ordinance has had. He also
noted that graffiti violations would have to be done by notice to vendors. l\1s. Hesch said she felt
vendor addresses must be street addresses, not post office boxes.
General Consensus: Mr. Stahmer should do his mapping and confer with Public Works
Director Stadler. He should propose a fee schedule. He should return in a month for a work session,
then go to the dealers for input.
Other
Board/Conimission Training
Mr. Brausen said he feels board and commission training needs to be overhauled and become
an annual session talk facilitated by a past Council member or board officer where both past and new
members discuss roles, etc:
General Consensus: This should get a half hour discussion late in October
Art Center
Ms. Jensen said she is very frustrated that the Center seems to be "like a library" - quiet, no
life. Ms. Hesch has heard comments that the Minnetonka Center is much easier to work with.
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General Consensus: All parties need to get together and work on this after the financial
statements come out.
Miscellaneous
Ms. Jensen has heard positive comments that the Citizens Academy is on again.
Mayor Maxwell said the Hopkins House area needs to be cleaned up.
Ms. Hesch said Mr. Waldeck had called again. It was agreed Mr. Stadler should update him.
The meeting adjourned into a closed session on motion by Ms. Johnson and second by Ms. Jensen at
9:50 p.m. .
Kasey Kester, Secretary
COUNCIL MEMBERS
ATTEST:
Eugene J. Maxwell, Mayor