CR 2000-159 Conditional Use Permit- Fence
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. September 27,2000 Council Report 2000-159
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - FENCE
ProDosed Action.
Staff recommends the following motion: Move to approve Resolution 2000-71. approving a
conditional use permit to construct a six-foot fence.
At the Zoning and Planning meeting, Mr. Thompson moved and Mr. Rowan seconded a
motion to approve Resolution RZOO-20, recommending approval of a conditional use permit
to construct a fence. The motion was approved unanimously.
Overview.
The applicants are proposing to construct a pool in their back yard. The ordinance requires
that pools be surrounded by a fence at least four feet high. The applicants are requesting a
conditional use permit to construct a six-foot fence around their pool on a portion of their lot
that allows a fence with a maximum height of only four feet.
. The applicants are requesting the conditional use permit for safety concerns with the pooL
Primarv Issues to Consider.
. What does the ordinance require?
. What are the specifics of the fence?
. What is the staff recommendation?
. What was the discussion at the Zoning and Planning meeting?
SUDDortin2 Documents.
. Analysis of Issues
. Site Plan
. Letter from applicants
. Resolution 2000-71
Nanc . Anderson, AICP
Planner
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Primary Issues to Consider.
. What does the ordinance require?
The Zoning Ordinance states the following: Fences for special purposes and fences differing
in construction, height or length may be permitted in any district in the city by the issuance of
a conditional use permit by the Council upon proof and reasons submitted by the applicant
and upon the signing by said bodies that such special purpose is necessary to protect, buffer
or improve the premises for which such fence is intended. The special fence permit, if
issued, may stipulate and provide for the height, location, construction and type of special
fence thereby permitted.
. What are the specifics of the fence?
The applicants are proposing to construct a pool fence in their back yard. They are proposing
a six-foot fence surrounding the pool. The ordinance does not allow a six-foot fence between
homes. On the south side of the applicants' home their neighbor's home extends on the lot
farther back than the applicants' home do. The Zoning Ordinance allows a maximum height
of four feet for fences along the side yard between homes.
. . What is the stafT recommendation?
Staff is recommending approval of the conditional use permit. There is a distance of 34 feet
between the homes, and the neighbors widows are above six feet.
. What was the discussion at the Zoning and Planning meeting?
Ms. Anderson reviewed the applicants' request. Joseph and Deann Speltz, the applicants,
appeared before the Commission. They stated that their biggest concern was with the pool is
safety. No one appeared at the public hearing regarding this item. Mr. Speltz also had a
letter from his insurance company that required a six-foot fence surrounding pools. It was
noted that the abutting neighbor is not opposed to the fence.
AJternatives.
1. Approve the conditional use permit. By approving the conditional use permit, the
applicants will be able to construct the fence as proposed.
2. Deny the conditional use permit. By denying the conditional use permit, the applicant
will not be able to construct the fence as proposed. If the City Council considers this
alternative, findings will have to be identified that support this alternative.
. 3. Continue for further information. If the City Council indicates that further information is
needed, the item should be continued.
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. 3. Written justification for request including discussion of how any potential conflicts
with existing nearby land uses will be minimized.
We are requesting this variance due to the fact that we're building a pool. Our number one
concern is safety; specifically access to the pool.
According to the ordinance, when a fence along the property line intersects with a neighboring
home, the fence must drop to a height of 4 ft. We were told this is primarily for the purpose of not
blocking the neighbor's view and closing off yard space.
We have taken extreme consideration in erecting this fence. We not only went to each of our
neighbors (immediately north, south, west and several doors down) to discuss putting up the
fence but we also did in-depth investigation on the type and quality of fence. We and our
.' neighbors will be living with it for a very long time.
We understand why the ordinance was written and that it is written to cover the majority of
situations in a community. We can appreciate the reasoning behind the ordinance where lots
might be smaller and closer together as in standard city lots, however, the lots on our street are
larger, more open and have far greater distance between houses than the average city lot. The
distance between our houses is 34 feet and the length of the lot line is 179 feet. When it comes to
pools, we believe safety should come first and the intent of the ordinance should take into
consideration just that.
Our justification for the variance is detailed below.
1. Obstructing Neighbor's View
. . Constructing a 6 ft. high fence will not obstruct our neighbor's view at all. Because of the
grade variation along the line of construction, a 6 ft. fence is over one foot below the bottom of
the neighbor's windows. We measured our neighbor's windows and they start 6'_2" (to bottom
of the sill) above ground level. (See photos.) You can clearly see from the photos that my
husband (6'tall) is well below the bottom of the windows when standing on the line of the
fence. You can also see that standing directly next to the neighbor's windows they start
above 6 ft.
. There are four windows on the side of our neighbor's house; 3 bedroom and 1 bathroom.
Even though there isn't a "view" issue as outlined in A, above, these would be the least likely
rooms in a house that anyone would spend time looking out. Generally, people want more
privacy in these rooms; especially in a rambler. In addition, our neighbor's trees are already
obstructing the view.
2. Lot Size
. Previously mentioned, our lot as well as our neighbor's are considerably larger that the
average city lot. Constructing a 6 ft. fence will not cause a closed in or confining feeling in this
instance.
. See attached plot drawing.
3. Accessibility to Public
. We understand that a 4 ft. fence is all that is required around a pool. We also understand that
. this is sufficient to stop a toddler from wandering in. However, we don't feel it is sufficient for
the active, inquisitive 7+ year old child that my want to visit the pool. We have a 7 and 9 year
old and they would be able to get over a 4ft. fence quite easily.
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. . Constructing a 4 ft. fence at the designated point would only heighten the interest of passers
by as it is the most visible and accessible point from the street. We feel that a 6 ft. fence
would ward off any interested party.
. Requiring self locking hardware with key (also part of the ordinance) seems to defeat the
purpose of safety when an older child or adult could easily climb over a 4 ft. fence. We
believe the required hardware is appropriate with a taller fence.
4. Neighbor's Approval
. Our neighbor at 334 Burnes Drive, has eight grandchildren that visit the house on a weekly
basis. We've talked to her in depth about the pool, safety etc. and she supports the 6ft. fence
100%. Her signature is at the bottom of this page in support of this variance. Our neighbors
to the north, Paul and Shirfey Bengston also have a pool. They also feel strongly that a 4 foot
section of fence is not appropriate. They can be reached at 935-6538 for further discussion.
They have been pool owners for over 23 years. We value their insight and judgment when it
comes to pools.
. We have done quite a bit of investigating and have looked at many pools; in particular our
neighborhood. There are a number of pools in the neighborhood and all have at least a 5 ft.
tall fence around them. We only ask that we can have that same opportunity for safety.
In closing, we are concerned, responsible homeowners in the Hopkins community. Having a pool
. is a new venture for us and with it comes some anxiety as well as a heightened awareness of
safety and security. We have lived in Hopkins and this house for 11 years and plan on being here
a long time. We have always worked to maintain an attractive residence and now we want to
provide the safest residence as well. We have fears and concerns as new pool owners and can
honestly say our conscience will not ever be at ease if we have a section of 4 ft. fence.
We ask that you take our request under the utmost consideration and grant the variance.
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. CITY OF HOPKINS
Hennepin County, Minnesota
RESOLUTION NO: 2000-71
RESOLUTION MAKING FINDINGS OF FACT AND
APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
TO CONSTRUCT A SIX FOOT FENCE
WHEREAS, an application for Conditional Use Permit CUPOO-6 has been made by Joe
and Deann Speltz~
WHEREAS, the procedural history of the application is as follows:
1. That an application for a conditional use permit was made by Joe and
Deann Speltz on August 24, 2000;
2. That the Hopkins Zoning and Planning Commission, pursuant to mailed
and published notice, held a public hearing on the application and
reviewed such application on September 26, 2000: all persons present
were given an opportunity to be heard;
. 3. That the written comments and analysis of City staff were considered~ and
4. A legal description of the subject property is as follows:
Lot 1, Block 1 Campbell Fourth Addition
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the application for Conditional Use
Permit CUPOO-6 is hereby approved based on the following Findings of Fact:
1. That the proposed fence is being constructed because of safety concerns with the
swimming pool.
2. That the proposed six-foot fence between the homes does not block the light or air
between the homes.
Adopted this 3rd day of October 2000.
. Eugene 1. Maxwell, Mayor
ATTEST:
Terry Obermaier, City Clerk