Memo Entertainment Complex Design Task Force
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C I T Y 0 F BOP KIN S
. MEMORANDUM
DATE: November 10, 1994
TO: Charles D. Redepenning, The Honorable Mayor
City Council
FROM: Tom Harmening, community Development Director
SUBJECT: Entertainment Complex Design Review Task Force
I Purpose of Discussion
The purpose of this item is to allow Fran Hesch, City
Council liaison to this group, to report on the activities
and findings which took place at the first meeting of the
Task Force. Based on this report the Council 1S requested
to provide direction and input to Councilmember Hesch as to
the items, issues and concerns which she should bring back
to the next meeting of the Design Review Task Force
scheduled for November 17th.
4It Attached, for your review, are detailed minutes of the
October 27th Design Review Committee meeting as well as a
general summary of comments made during the meeting
regarding various project issues. Also included are
comments made by representatives of HBCA.
II Backaround
Recently, the City Council authorized the formation of an
Entertainment Complex Design Review Task Force. This
formation was done in part based upon a request made by the
Hopkins Business and Civic Association.
The purpose of the Task Force i$ to provide input to the
Developer and City on various si~e plan and design issues of
the Entertainment Complex Project. It is proposed that the
Developer and City uses this information to assist in the
final design of the project~ ultimately allowing the
developer to submit an application to the City for a
conditional use permit. It is hoped that by undertaking
this process all brought the issues and concerns regarding
the project will be forward very early on in the process,
hopefully allowing for a more streamlined and
noncontroversial final approval process.
~ A list of the members that are sitting on the Entertainment
Complex Design Review Task Force is attached.
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ENTERT AINMENT COMPLEX DESIGN REVIEW
TASK FORCE MEETING
OCTOBER 27, 1994 .
SUMMARY OF COMMENTS
LANDSCAPE/LIGHTING
0 Provide screening on South side adjacent to Citi-Gables
0 Perhaps follow Mainstreet lighting theme in parking lot
0 Be sensitive to adjacent residential in terms of parking lot lighting
0 Targeted landscaping in specific areas
Don't over power with landscaping along Mainstreet
0 Make sure landscaping works in wintertime
DESIGN/ARCHITECTURE .
0 Brick on Building
0 Tower idea is good - be careful of overdoing this.
0 Have marquee oriented to Mainstreet
Use older style marquee
0 Make statement on Mainstreet
0 Make sure scale of project next to str~et is not out of proportion
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0 Provide perception of windows on upper portions of building
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0 Concern about scale of project at west side - Perhaps small retail
along Mainstreet
0 Drainage on south side adjacent to Citi-Gables is a problem
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PARKINGITRAFFlC
. 0 Big issue to HBCA
0 Is the issue one of perception vs. reality?
0 Expand/Update parking study
0 Look at alternat(ves/other solutions
0 Ramp expansion
0 Other lots
0 Peak time for parking demand in future
0 Saturday afternoon during winter months
0 Funding for ramp expansion?
Plan in Advance
0 Name Ramp to identify with entertainment complex.
0 Provide on street signage to better define parking location.
. 0 Provide marquee or signage on C. R. 3 to identify entertainment
complex.
0 Parking lot to west - consider doing this (between 12th and 13th
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ORIENTATION/SPATIAL ARRANGEMENT OF PROJECT
0 Concerns about scale of Project - Relates to Mainstreet
feel/orientation. Perhaps step buildings back off of street.
a limit off street parking from fronting qn Mainstreet
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a Use split project but put part of arts facility an south side with
Cinema/Restaurant. (gallery/gift shop)
0 Keep buildings away from Citi-Gables - proposed parking location is
seemingly okay - Provide screening between parking lot and
Citi-Gables
. 0 Art center should be independent - identity issue
Move to corner of 11 th Avenue Mainstreet
0 Art center on south side restricts growth/change to restaurant/cinema
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MEETING WITH DALE LOMMEN AND MARK OURADNICK .
RE: HBCA & ECDRTF
Comments
Be sensitive to parking concerns but make sure to look at this project from big picture
perspective.
Retail on comer of 12th and Main is not important. Solve parking issue by doing something west
of site. Look at this Ym strongly!
What about civic meeting space? A restaurant that is large enough to have meeting and serve
lunch (Rotary, etc.). Between theater and restaurant complex may be a space to serve 300
people. Top priority project.
Scale back number of theaters? In order to leave area for retail on 12th. Maybe less theaters?
Make room for potential bank facility,
Landscaping and Lights - have similar "theme" on this site. Signage on Highway 3 is good idea.
Redevelop Park Upholstery building into parking. e
Maybe put parking in front of building, and building next to Citi-Gables.
Make 11th Avenue a one-way going south from Mainstreet to 1st Street South.
Maybe tie ramp into cosmetics of Entertainment Complex.
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ENTERTAINlVIENT COMPLEX
. DESIGN REVIEW TASK FORCE (ECDRTF)
lVIINUTES
October 27, 1994
A meeting of the ECDRTF was held on Thursday, October 27, at 6:30 p.m. in the Raspberry
Room of Hopkins City Hall.
Present were Tom Harmening, Jim Kerrigan, Fran Hesch (City Council), John Legenhausen
(NAB), Barb Bourne (NAB), Bill Beard (Developer), Murray Mack (Developer), Paul Gamst
(Developer), Gordon Whitehead (Citi-Gables), Shirajoy Abry (Twin West), Paul Gates
(Architect), Nelson Berg (NAB), Dan Johnson (P&Z).
CALL TO ORDER
Tom Harmening provided an introduction to purpose of the Task Force. Comments made during
meeting included:
(Q) Nelson B.: Can all uses be on South side?
(A) Bill B.: Stated that is a possibility and they are looking at this alternative.
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Uses on both side of street offer more flexibility for future tenants.
(C) Murray M.:
(Q) Shirajoy A: Concern about orientation. Could cinema and restaurant be rotated 90
degrees and have restaurant on Mainstreet with theater to rear? Also
should architecture be less "older building look" and more of a
monumental type structure.
(A) Paul G.: They are flexible based on budget. Need to take into account functional
layout of theater.
(C) Dan J.: Have marquee on Mainstreet.
(C) Bill B.: Trying to create image to Mainstreet
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(C) Nelson B.: Mainstreet towers, lighting, ete:: could be incorporated into site. Seems
like a lot of towers in proposed design. Old style of marquee might help to
soften look.
(C) Dan 1.: Marquee on theater in Wayzata and 50th and Prance make a definite
statement. Likes downtown look of proposed project. Make a statement
e on Mainstreet -would help to have dominate Marquees.
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(Q) Nelson B.: Marquees can make significant statement to building. What is the height
of the theater building? Nelson stated concern about height. .
(A) Murray M.: Height is approximately 25 feet.
(Q) Nelson B.: Could there be windows or the look of windows on 2nd floor?
(A) Murray M.: Yes
(C) Dan 1.: Should look at old Hopkins theater Marquees.
(Q) Fran R: Concern about having all the parking adjacent to Citi-Gables.
(Q) Shirajoy A.: Will a 25 foot wail at 12th and Main have a negative impact on future
development on this comer or further to west?
(Q) Paul Gates: Favors splitting uses on two sides of the street. Is it possible to have some
of the arts uses, i. e.: gift shop, etc. moved to south project on Mainstreet?
Might free up parking on north side of street. Also, makes building scale
of project along Mainstreet more appropriate.
(A) Murray M.: By rotating project may have negative impact on available surface parking
for theater/restaurant. e
(Q) Nelson B.: Is there some small retail use that could be placed on south side of
Mainstreet in order to reduce scale of cinema adjacent to Mainstreet?
(C) Gordon W.: Keep in mind there will be a lot of traffic on 12th because it is thru street to
Highway 7.
(C) Bill B.: Have tried to be sensitive to Citi-Gables and keep some space betwee.n
them.
(C) Gordon, W.: Likes parking adjacent to Citi-Gables. Doesn't want garbage cans visible.
(C) Murray M.: Tried to orient the building to the parking ramp.
(C) Gordon W,: Drainage problem on City property adjacent to Citi-Gables on south side of
Suburban Property.
(C) Barbara B.: Likes separation of theater and performing arts facility. Help to be
independent. Move arts facility closer to 11th St.
(Q) Nelson B.: Is 2nd story office realistic? .
(A) Paul G.: Stated would include in project now or later if there was a demand.
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(Q) Fran H.: Could theater be sunk. into ground - reduces height of building.
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(A) Murray M.: Concerns with ADA requirements.
(C) John L.: Desirable to have retail on Mainstreet. How about moving theater lobby to
Mainstreet frontage?
(C) Shirajoy A: Move northwest theater auditorium to rear of project and replace with
retail.
(C) Bill B.: Concerned about building spec retaiL
(Q) Dan 1.: Should theater and arts facility have their own separate architectural
design?
(C) Fran H.: Attempt to have cinema facility designed so it can be to adaptive to a
different use at a future date.
(C) Nelson B.: Name parking ramp so it identifies with entertainment uses.
(C) Bill B.: Possibility of off site signage at 5th., 8th, and 11 th?
e (C) Fran H.: Possibility of creating parking to the west of project on Mainstreet.
(C) Nelson B.: Incorporate Mainstreet lighting in parking area and entrance points.
(C) Tom H.: Need to make sure parking lot lighting is sensitive to adjacent residential..
May not want to have a lot oflandscaping on Mainstreet, target
landscaping in specific areas.
(C) Dan J.: May be should have straight wall on Mainstreet.
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(C) Shirajoy A.: Need to be conscious of how landscaping will appear in winter.
(C) Gordon W.: Don't want a wall effect as a separation from Citi-Gables.
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(C) Nelson B.: Have presentation with HBCA general membership meeting and then have
action at board meeting.
(C) Tom H.: Next Meeting November 17th, 6:00 p.m.
KEY - CQ) Question
. (C) Comment
(A) Answer
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ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX DESIGN REVEIW TASK FORCE
Rick Brausen Parking Committee .
47 North 20th Ave.
Hopkins I MN. 55343
Gordon Whitehead Citi-Gables Condo's
32 - 11th Ave. S .
#309
Hopkins I MN. 55343
Dan Johnson Z & P Commission
705 Valley Way
Hopkins I MN. 55343
Nelson Berg Arts Association
904 Mainstreet
Hopkins, MN. 55343
Fran Hesch City Council
246 - 5th Ave. N.
Hopkins I MN. 55343
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Karen Legenhausen NAB
126 - 6th Ave. N.
Hopkins I MN. 55343
Barb Bourne NAB
1144 S . Trailwood
Hop kins I MN. 55343
Mark Ouradnick HBCA
First Bank Hopkins r
16 - 9th Ave. N. I
Hopkins, MN. 55343 "
Dale Lommen HBCA
Little Blind Spot
811 Mainstreet
Hopkins I MN. 55343
Shirajoy Abry TwinWest Chamber of Commerce e
Abry & Associates Architecture
3425 The Mall
Minnetonka, MN. 55345-1240