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CITY OF HOPKINS
MEMORANDUM
DATE: DECEMBER 29, 1992
TO HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
FROM PAUL T. STEINMAN, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST
SUBJECT: PERFORMING ARTS CENTER /CHILD'S PLAY THEATRE
I. Purpose of Discussion
The purpose of this discussion will be to address nine
specific questions which were raised at the City Council
meeting on December 15, 1992 regarding the Performing Arts
Facility and Child's Play Theatre. These questions are as
follows:
What is the status of the Suburban Chevrolet property?
What are Child's Play Theatre's timing issues?
Is the Rudy Luther property available for purchase by
the City?
What is the possibility of constructing a smaller
"entertainment" project elsewhere in the City other
than the Suburban Chevrolet site?
What are the issues with regard to downsizing the
Performing Arts Facility building from 13,000 sq. ft.?
How would a project be structured with Child's Play
Theatre as part of an "entertainment" project?
What is Child's Play Theatre's ability to manage a
Performing Arts Facility?
How are capital replacement costs such as roofs and
heating /cooling systems worked into the operating
costs?
o How can the City assist in Child's Play Theatre's
fundraising activities?
In addition to reviewing these questions, the City Council
will be asked to provide a response to the original request
by Child's Play Theatre. The original request was for
answers to the following questions:
Selection of an alternative City -owned site that could
accommodate a 12,500 to 15,000 square foot, stand -alone
building for Child's Play Theatre.
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Commitment of up to $1.5 million dollars for the
construction of this building.
Commitment to a date no later than June 15, 1993 when
construction of this building would begin, allowing for
Child's Play to prepare for a move -in date during the
1993/94 season.
IL.Background
The City Council, at their meeting on December 15, 1992,
held a public input meeting to discuss the construction of a
stand alone Performing Arts Facility with Child's Play
Theatre as the major tenant.
The analysis was undertaken in order to address the original
request from Child's Play Theatre. At this meeting several
questions were raised throughout the discussion regarding
Child's Play Theatre, and the "entertainment project"
concept. The Council asked staff to provide a response to
these questions at the next meeting on January 5, 1993.
This report will provide an explanation and analysis of each
of these questions as well as provide further information
on possible alternatives which could be used by the City
Council.
III Analysis
Council asked staff to provide further information on the
following questions:
o What is the status of the Suburban Chevrolet property?
Suburban Chevrolet has been anticipating moving their car
dealership out of downtown Hopkins to Eden Prairie for the
last couple years. In preparation for this move, the owners
of Suburban Chevrolet have been proceeding through the Eden
Prairie planning process, and just recently received final
approval from the Eden Prairie City Council. In addition,
Suburban Chevrolet has retained control of a site through a
purchase or option agreement to accomodate their move.
In recent conversations with Mr. Tom Grossman, he stated the
next step is to obtain a commitment for project financing,
which he feels will not be a major issue. At present he is
anticipating construction to begin in Spring of 1993, with a
move scheduled for the Fall of 1993. Staff will be meeting
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with Mr. Grossman prior to the January 5th Council meeting
to discuss their time schedule in more detail and Suburban's
interest and willingness to sell their property in Hopkins.
o What are Child's Play Theatre's timing issues?
Child's Play Theatre is interested in securing a new
facility as soon as possible. Their preference was to be in
this facility by the Fall of 1993. However, Mr Steve
Barberio has stated that he agrees this timetable is
probably not practical. Mr. Barberio has stated that if the
Council is not in favor of supporting a free standing
Performing Arts Facility at this time, Child's Play is
willing to explore the possibility of securing a lease with
the School District. This was based on the understanding
that an entertainment complex project would continue to be
pursued by the City and that such a project would be
undertaken possibly within the reasonable future.
Child's Play has previously stated that remaining at
Eisenhower long term was unacceptable for the following
reasons:
o CPT does not have enough control of the facility
o Facility is in need of certain upgrades
o Lack of ability to secure a long -term lease
o Parking concerns
School District Staff now appear to be willing to address
these issues. They have stated that they are willing to
examine the possibility of a "multi - year" agreement with
CPT. They have has also indicated to City staff that
improvements will probably be made to the theatre area based
upon recommendations contained in their Facility Needs
Analysis to be completed in February. It is then
contemplated a bond issue would be sold in the Fall of 1993
to finance the various improvements identified in the study,
provided the necessary referendum was approved. School
District officials feel work on the improvements to the
theater area would be undertaken in late 1993 or early 1994.
During this time, it is anticipated that staff would
continue to work with the School District and CPT concerning
progress on development of an entertainment complex.
In conclusion, it appears the School District is willing to
accommodate Child's Play Theatre at the Eisenhower facility
either on a short or possibly long term basis.
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o Is the Rudy Luther property available for purchase
by the City?
At the time the analysis of the Rudy Luther block was
undertaken for the stand alone Performing Arts Facility, the
Rudy Luther Body Shop and surrounding property on this block
were not available for sale. Therefore, City staff undertook
an analysis of the block with this consideration in mind.
This is the reason the present scenario was developed which
includes acquiring Vic's Red Door, the two houses north of
Lot 700, and utilizing other HRA owned property in this area
to accommodate a 13,000 sq. ft. Performing Arts Facility.
The scenario discussed by staff at the December 15, 1992
Council meeting did not include the purchase of any Rudy
Luther property on the block.
Recently, City staff has been in contact with Rudy Luther
about the sale of the Body. Shop and other property on this
block. Rudy Luther has indicated at this time that he is
possibly willing to sell the property which he owns between
7th and. 8th Avenues except for a small triangular parcel
north of the alley on the west edge of this block.
Rudy Luther has discussed with staff that although he is in
a position to sell the property, he may not be able to
vacate the Body Shop for a period of approximately 2 years.
Mr. Luther has indicated he is not able to move his
operation until such a time as the space he is currently
examining purchasing is vacated by the present tenants. The
space he is looking at relocating his body shop currently
has a lease on it which runs for about 2 more years.
Mr. Luther has stated that he is possibly willing to sell
his property with the consideration that the City lease it
back to him for a term of approximately 2 years. This would
allow him time to move the body shop to the other location.
Staff had an earlier appraisal completed on all the Rudy
Luther property on the block, including the used car
property east of 7th Avenue. The value of the property based
upon this appraisal is $640,000. An option agreement for the
Rudy Luther property has been provided to Mr. Luther by
staff for consideration. However,' there has been no response
from Mr. Luther to date.
o What is the possibility of constructing a smaller
• ntertainment" project elsewhere in the City?
Two sites could potentially accommodate such a project other
than the Suburban Chevrolet property:
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1) Rudy Luther Block
2) R.L. Johnson B -3 zoned property located at the
Southeast corner of County Rd. 3 and llth Avenue
The Rudy Luther Block, which includes all of the property
North of Mainstreet, and south of the LRT corridor between
7th and 8th Avenues is approximately 74,232 sq. ft., or 1.7
acres.
Staff has determined that this site could potentially
accommodate a 13,000 sq. ft. Performing Arts Facility, and
approximately a 7,000 - 10,000 sq. ft. restaurant. It
appears with these two uses, that a majority of parking
could potentially be accommodated on site. If the body shop
were to be purchased from Rudy Luther, the triangular
property east of 7th (15,110 sq. ft.) would also go along
with this acquisition. This additional property would
accommodate approximately 50 parking spaces for any project
which would be completed on the Rudy Luther Block.
A large movie theatre project as a single use would demand
approximately between 350 to 500 parking spaces. There would
not be enough-square footage in this area to allow for the
construction of a stand alone movie theatre along with CPT
and a restraunt with the surface parking which would be
available.
If all of the R.L. Johnson property on the corner of County
Rd. 3 and llth Avenue (2 acres), along with the HRA
property, were incorporated into one parcel, there would be
sufficient square footage to accommodate construction of
both a Performing Arts Facility and a restaurant. However,
Mr. Johnson presently has an option agreement executed on
approximately 1 acre of this site.
o What are the issues with regard to downsizing the
Performing Arts Facility building from 13,000 sq. ft.?
The issue of downsizing the building from 13,000 sq. ft. to
10,000 - 12,000 sq. ft. came as a recommendation from Art
Space based upon their analysis of CPT's operations. Art
Space's recommendation to downsize the building was also
based upon the fact that a smaller building would create
less annual operating liability for CPT.
Art Space estimated CPT would be able to pay operating costs
of $96,000 per year. This would calculate to about $7.38
per square foot in a 13,000 sq. ft. building. Art Space has
stated that based on other similar operations, per square
foot costs will realistically be between $7 - $10.
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Therefore, operating costs of $7.38 square foot, would be an
ideal situation. However, from a more conservative
standpoint, by assuming average square foot costs at
somewhat the medium of $8.50, CPT could afford a building
which is 11,300 square feet.
CPT recently submitted a revised facility budget based on
their first year of occupancy in 1995. They have estimated
operating costs for this year to be $112,000, which is
approximately $8,000 more than projected by the City Staff.
However, they have also detailed an increase of
approximately $10,000 in total revenues for the same period.
The assumption is these increased revenues would off -set the
increased operating costs. City staff has not had an
opportunity to review this matter in any great detail with
Art Space or CPT.
The original size of the facility that CPT stated they
required for their operation was approximately 18,000
20,000 square feet. In response to staff concerns, this was
reduced by C.P.T.to 13, 000 square feet. In discussions with
Mr. Barberio, he has stated it is likely that any further
downsizing will result in a building which would not meet
the minimum requirements of Child's Play Theatre or provide
for flexibility for use by other organizations on a long .
term basis. An additional concern that CPT would have with
downsizing the building is that there is the possibility
they may outgrow a smaller facility in the next 10 -15 years.
Staff has determined that until an architect is hired to
complete the design /layout phase of such a project, the
appropriate building size is going to be difficult to
determine. As a result of the architectural review, the
size of the building may actually be able to be reduced
because of a more efficient design /lay -out of the space, but
at the same time still meet all the needs of Child's Play
Theatre and other potential users. On the other hand, this
analysis may determine the facility needs to be 13,000
square feet or perhaps . even larger in order to be a usable
facility on a long term basis.
o How would a project be structured with Child's Play
Theatre as part of an "entertainment" project?
Initial discussions with Copeland - Mithun for an
entertainment type project included Child's Play Theatre, a
movie theatre, and a restaurant facility. It was proposed to
be entirely privately owned.
There is the possibility that if CPT was part of an
entertainment complex, that this portion of the facility
could be publicly owned. The benefit of such an approach
would be as follows:
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City would retain better control over the
C.P.T.facility
Property taxes would not have to be included as
part of the operating costs
Very little analysis has been done on the financial
structure of the entertainment complex. A pre - development
agreement was signed with Copeland - Mithun, but since an
option agreement could not be successfully negotiated with
the owners of Suburban Chevrolet, further in -depth analysis
of the entertainment complex issue did not proceed.
In the initial discussion process Copeland - Mithun indicated
that to make the project feasible for them they would likely
ask that the City purchase Suburban Chevrolet, complete any
necessary environment clean -up, and sell the property to
Copeland - Mithun for $1.00. In addition to this, Copeland -
Mithun has said an additional subsidy of $1 to $1.5 million
would be required because of CPT's inability to pay market
rent on their portion of the complex. Based upon these
assumptions the City's involvement in this project would be
in the range of $2 2.5 million.
o What is Child's Play Theatre's ability to manage a
Performing Arts Facility?
Attached to this memo is a letter from Art Space which
outlines the issues involved in managing a Performing Arts
Facility.
Art Space suggests that with the addition of two staff
people, management of the facility for CPT should not be a
concern. Art Space has outlined in the initial operating
costs the addition of a Maintenance /Janitor at $18,000 per
year, and a Management /Booking person at $21,000 per year.
With these two staff people, and a small reallocation of
existing CPT staff time, Art Space states that CPT will be
quite capable of managing the facility.
o How are capital costs such as roof replacement and
heating /cooling systems worked into the operating costs?
At the Council meeting on December 15, 1992, a concern was
expressed that the operating pro -forma as detailed by staff
and Art Space did not accurately address the issue of
capital replacement expenditures. However, staff feels that
this issue is addressed adequately in the operating pro
forma as detailed in the initial Art Space report.
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Art Space recommended in their initial report that the City
contribute $50,000, and CPT contribute $30,000 toward
funding of a Replacement Reserve account with a mechanism in
the Master Lease agreement to replenish /build on these
reserves. Also, staff has also included in the initial
report, a line item operating expense entitled "reserves ".
Staff is suggesting that under this line item, $1.00 per sq.
ft. per year be escrowed into a replacement and /or operating
reserve account. These funds, in addition to the $80,000
Replacement Reserve account, would be used to fund repair
and /or replacement of the following items:
o Roof
Seat replacement
Lighting
Major maintenance` items
Staff is comfortable that these two methods of funding
capital replacement accounts will be sufficient to address
associated costs.
Parking lot improvements
o How can the City assist with Child's Play Theatre's
fundraising activities?
Steve Barberio has informed City staff that for CPT
fundraising efforts to continue to progress, a signed
Development Agreement or firm letter of commitment to fund
their project from the City would be necessary. Mr. Barberio
indicated that probably anything less than this would not be
of any benefit in securing a successful commitment from the
McKnight Foundation, or other large corporate givers. Mr.
Barberio is currently in the process of discussing this
issue further with McKnight and other corporate givers.
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IV. Alternatives
Various project alternatives have been discussed as part of
the previous staff report on this project. The specifics of
these alternatives, along with action steps, are identified
as follows:
1) Construct a free standing performing arts facility.
Action Steps
Action Steps
o Identify site. Staff is recommending a site which
would utilize the western portion of the Rudy Luther
block along with property which would be acquired
west of 8th Avenue.
o Authorize staff to secure options on selected site.
Staff has already secured options for the above
described property. Therefore, this action would only
be required if a site other than what is recommended
by staff was selected by the Council by HRA.
o Direct staff to review various alternatives for
constructing the facility, including utilizing a
project manager, design build approach, or
conventional construction utilizing an architect and
general contractor. Staff would then return to the
Council in the near future with the recommended
approach and request authorization to proceed
based upon the approach selected.
o Authorize completion of phase one environmental
assessment and any additional environmental analysis.
o Authorize staff to begin preparing master lease
agreement with Child's Play Theater.
o Undertake necessary revisions to tax increment plan.
Work with a private for profit developer to construct
an entertainment complex which would include a facility
for Child's Play Theater. The Suburban Chevrolet
property had previously been identified as a priority
site for this type of project.
Request that staff prepare a letter responding to
the September 29, 1992 letter from Child's Play
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Theater Company. This letter in summary would state the
following:
o The City of Hopkins is not in a position t
support a free standing performing arts
facility at this time. However, the City will
continue to work towards construction of an
entertainment complex facility within the City
with Child's Play Theatre as a tenant. The
priority site for this project at this time
being the Suburban Chevrolet property.
o The City is not able to commit $1.5 million
for construction of a free standing performing
arts facility at this time. The City is
willing to consider providing funds to
facilitate the construction of an entertainment
complex facility which included Child's Play
Theatre as a major tenant.
o The City cannot commit to the construction of a
free standing performing arts facility or
entertainment complex by June 15, 1993 However,
it may be possible that construction could be
started in the spring of 1994 of an
entertainment complex with occupancy in
the fall of that year.
City would maintain communication with the School
District as relates to the status of the School
District's facility needs analysis and their proposed
bond issue to finance improvements contained in the
study.
Direct staff continue to work with the owners of
Suburban Chevrolet to secure an option agreement.
Provide a letter to Copeland - Mithun that the City
wishes to continue to pursue an entertainment complex
project for the City and authorize staff to continue to
work on the specifics of such a project.
Have staff provide a monthly update at the regular
scheduled HRA meeting as relates to both the status
of negotiations on the Suburban Chevrolet site and the
School District improvements to the theater facility at
Eisenhower.
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o Direct that staff schedule on the April 6, 1993 HRA
agenda a discussion of the status of undertaking an
entertainment complex project on the Suburban
Chevrolet property. At this time, the HRA would be
requested to undertake one of the following actions:
o Authorize staff to continue to pursue the
Suburban Chevrolet site for an entertainment
complex facility.
Authorize staff to secure options on an
alternative site i.e. Rudy Luther block or
R.L.Johnson property for construction of a
smaller entertainment complex project.
Authorize staff to take the necessary steps for
constructing a free standing performing arts
facility.
Maintain the Child's Play Theatre operation at
Eisenhower School. It is assumed that this action
would be done in conjunction with the above alternative
and therefore the action steps would be the same.
However, there is the alternative that neither a free
standing facility or entertainment complex would not be
undertaken. Under this senario, it would be assumed
that staff would be directed to work with the School
District and CPT to undertake a lease agreement and
improvements to the theater which would meet CPT's
needs. However, CPT has previously stated that they do
not wish to remain at Eisenhower long term.
December 21, 1992
Mr. Paul Steinman
Community Development Specialist
City of Hopkins
1010 First Street South
Hopkins, MN 55343
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Dear Paul:
As per our conversation of the past week, and today, I am writing
to respond to a some of your questions regarding the CPT project.
As I understand it, there are two concerns which came out of the
council meeting; the issue of Facilities Management, and the issue
of Capital Replacement.
e council's concern about CPT's ability to manage a new facility
a legitimate one. There is a substantial amount of work
involved in managing a facility of this type. We have addressed
this to some extent in our report under the Analysis of Operating
and Maintenance Section. We have suggested that two new positions
be added to CPT's staff as part of the general operating expense of
the new facility. These positions are defined as
Maintenance /Janitor and Management /Booking, for which we have
allocated $40,000. In addition to this, however, CPT will need to
reallocate some staff time to deal with the inevitable issues
associated with building management. The Executive Director, as
well as the various theatre department heads, will need to plan for
making facilities management a part of their daily activities. I
think that with the addition of the above mentioned staff support,
CPT will be quite capable of managing this proposed facility.
As I understand it, the council's second concern was that there
were sufficient capital reserves to cover replacement needs, along
with a proposed schedule for capital replacement. This too is a
very legitimate concern for any project. On page nine of our
report, we outlined our recommendation that $50,000 be set aside as
initial funding of a Replacement Reserve Account. In addition to
this we recommended that CPT be obligated to continue to fund this
account as part of the general operating expense of the facility.
We are recommending that the annual operating budget include a
0,000 line -item for funding the replacement and operating reserve
counts. The City and CPT will need to come to agreement as to
at level these. Accounts should be funded to, and how they are to
be used. With regard to a Replacement Schedule for Capital
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Equipment, this will need to be developed as part of the overall
plan when you get to that stage. It should include replacement of
lighting systems, seats, and sound system, along with those items
included in a standard building replacement schedule.
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I look forward to hearing from you soon.
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December 22, 1992
Mr. James Kerrigan
City of Hopkins
1010 - 1st Street South
Hopkins, Mn 55343
Re: Child's Play Theater Project
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Stephen A. Carr
Dear Jim:
This is in response to your request for an opinion concerning
the legal ability = of the Hopkins Housing and Redevelopment
Authority ( "URA ") to undertake a development involving the
construction of a performing arts facility within the City of
Hopkins. You have asked whether the HRA may legally use its
funds, including tax increment, to acquire and construct the
facility which will be leased to a non-profit theatre company
for the staging of live theatre performances. The facility may
be subleased to other parties for similar types of uses, and use
of the facility will be reserved by the HRA for other community
activities. In my opinion, this is a permissible exercise of
the HRA's powers.
The proposed facility will be located within a redevelopment
project created by the HRA pursuant to minna22.ta Statutes,,
Sections 469.001 -.047. Under section 469.012, subd. 7, of the
statutes setting forth the HRA's powers, the HRA has the
authority to "... acquire... real property, and to demolish,
4emove, rehabilitate, or :.construct the buildings and
improvements or construct new buildings and improvements
thereon....' In addition, under section 469.002, subd. 14,
the definition of "redevelopment project" includes the
"...installation, construction, or reconstruction of streets,
utilities, parks, playgrounds, and other improvements
necessary..." to accomplish the redevelopment plan objectives.
The HRA has the authority to sell or lease land acquired for
uses in accordance with a redevelopment plan. . (Sections 469.002,
subd. 14(3), and 469.029)
Mr. James Kerrigan
December 22, 1992
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With respect to financing of the proposed development, Section
469.012, subd. 7/ provides that the HRA may finance such
activities "...by means of the redevelopment project fund or by
means of tax increments or tax increment bonds...." Section
469.176, subd. 4, of the tax increment law provides that tax
increment may be used by a housing and redevelopment authority
to pay the public redevelopment costs of a project pursuant to
Minnesqa Statutes, section 469.001 -.047. The public
redevelopment cost of a project is defined in section 469.033,
subd. 1, as all cost of a project. Finally, section 469.176,
subd. 4g, prohibits the use of tax increment to finance
facilities to be used primarily and regularly for conducting the
business of the HRA or the city, but provides that "This
provision shall not prohibit the use of revenues derived from
tax increments for the construction or renovation of
a... facility used for social, recreational, or conference
purposes and not primarily for conducting the business of the
municipality."
It is my opinion that the statutory provisions cited above
provide legal authority for the HRA's use of its funds,
including tax increment funds, to undertake the proposed
project, assuming that the HRA finds that the development is
consistent with and furthers the purposes for which the
redevelopment project is being undertaken (i.e. the elimination
of blight and the causes of blight, the stimulation of the local
economy, etc.).
Please let me know if you have any questions concerning this
letter or if any clarification is needed.
Sincerely,
Robert 3'. Deike
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