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BUS STOP - 15TH AVENUE AND MAINSTREET
Proposed Action.
staff. recommends adoption of the fOllowing motion: Move to
approve the placement of a bus 'stoP. without a shelter. . at the
northwest corner of 15th Avenue and Mainstreet.
Overview
As a part of. assisting with the design of the Mainstreet
Improvement Project, the Design Review Committee discussed the
appropriate locations ,for bus stops on Mainstreet. Theprocess
involved several meetings of the Design Review Committee, "a
public information meeting. to solicit input, and discussion at
the City Council level. A bus stop plan was subsequently approved
by the City Council ,as a part of the overall design of the
project.
,. Recently, 'a resident living in an apartment in the vicinity of
15th Avenue and Mainstreet has formally requested that a bus stop
,be located at the northwest corner of 15th Avenue and Mainstreet.
. Previous to the Mainstreet Improvement Project a bus stop had
been located at this intersection. Along with the request by the
resident, a petition was submitted requesting that a bus stop be
placed at the aforementioned location.
Primary Issues'toconsider
0 What is the basis for the current bus stop locations?
0 How does the adjacent property owne~ feel about the proposed
bus stop location?
0 What is the basis for the staff recommendation?
supporting'Documents
0 Analysis of issues
0 Alternatives
0 Letter from resident
0 Petition
0 Maps illustrating bus stop locations before" and after the
Mainstreet Project
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. Analysis of Issues
o What is the basis for the current bus stop locations?
To assist with the planning of the Mainstreet Improvement
Project a Design Review Committee (DRC) made up of property,
and business owners along Mainstreet was organized.
Initially, members of the DRC proposed that consideration be
given to moving the bus route to First street North due to
concerns for noise, odor, traffic and parking disruption
caused by the busses. However, after lengthy discussions
the DRC recommended that the bus route remain on Mainstreet
but that the number of stops ,be .reduced in order to minimize
the impact on the Mainstreet environment as much as
possible.
Prior to the Mainstreet Improvement Project 18 bus stops
were located on Mainstreet. The DRC recommended a plan be
adopted which provided for 12 bus stops with the stops
located on approximate three block intervals. Attachedare
drawings showing the previously existing bus stops and the
plan recommended and approved by the city council~
. 0 How does the adjacent property owner feel about the proposed
4It bus stop location?
The bus stop as proposed is to be located at the northwest
corner of 15th Avenue and Mainstreet directly in front of
Jeff's Auto Service. staff has contacted Jeff's Auto
Service and determined that this property owner is not
opposed to the location of this bus stop. However, this
property owner would have concerns if a shelter or bench was
placed at this location as well.
It should be noted that staff sent a notice to all property
owners on the block fronting Mainstreet on the north side of
Mainstreet both west and east of 15th Avenue.
o What is the basis for the staff recommendation?
Staff feels that the existing bus stop plan as approved by
the Design Review Committee and adopted by the City Council
was well thought out and took into consideration public
input and ridership patterns. Obviously, the proposed bus
stop deviates from the plan approved by the City Council.
However, staff is unable to provide any compelling reason to
recommend denial of the proposed bus stop location,
particularly in light of the strong public interest in
. having this stop and the lack of concern by the adjacent
property owner. As a result, staff has made a
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. recommendation to allow the bus stop as requested by the
residents in the area.
It should be noted that the MTC has approved the location ~f
this bus stop as well.
Alternatives
0 Approve the recommendation as made by staff.
0 Do not approve the recommendation as made by staff.
0 Continue matter for further information.
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. 1510 Mainstreet #212
Hopkins, MN 55343
October 8, 1993
Att: Mayor Chuck Redepenning
City of Hopkins, MN
Dear Mayor Redepenning:
Thank you for providing direction and support to the residents of
Hopkins (especially those who live, work and shop on Mainstreet),
in the matter of our attempt to restore the MTC bus stop to the
north side of Mainstreet, at the corner of 15th Avenue.
Upon the completion of the Mainstreet Improvement Project and the
restoration of bus service to the length of Mainstreet, we became
aware that the bus stop at the corner in question had been
eliminated. Since then my husband, Arthur, has been working to get
the stop restored. His dealings with the concerned city powers had
been an ongoing exercise in futility and frustration until it was
suggested that he contact you.
We have recently received a letter from Thomas Harmening, Director
. of Community Development, Hopkins (copy enclosed) that states the
current bus stop system was put into effect after a detailed
analysis of the input of residents and businesses along Mainstreet.
My husband and I were aware of a Town Meeting scheduled regarding
the elimination of some bus stops at which time publ ic input was
requested. We were not able to attend, but prior to the meeting we
did call City Hall and leave a message to the effect that we felt
the elimination of any bus stops along Mainstreet would be
contraindicated. We don't know what became of our message, or if it
was ever delivered.
My husband and I like Hopkins. We have been here more than six
years and a brick with our family name engraved has been placed in
our new 9th Avenue Plaza. We feel that we know Hopkins on an
intimate basis. We do not own a car and so we are frequently on the
bus and/or on foot, attending to most of our daily requirements:
medical, dental, barber, beauty salon, supermarket, post office,
pharmacies, restaurants, Downtown Park and concerts, Farmers
Market, and the Hopkins festivals and parades. We support the
community in which we live and my husband is quite active in
community affairs on a volunteer basis.
Please be aware that I am not in the habit of questioning
governmental decisions. I am a law-abiding, respectful citizen who
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Dropkin: Matter of MTC .bus stop at 15th Avenue and Mainstreet
October 8, 1993 .
bel ieves in government for the majori ty and in the process of
creating change by working wi thin the system. We moved to Minnesota
almost nine years ago, and for a period of time in New York (our
home state) I was active in community affairs and.neighborhood
projects. I understand that there are very seldom clear cut answers
to town problems and that trying tb get the general public educated
to the facts of a situation and then motivated to take action can
often be a slow and frustrating experience. What motivates us now
is the perception that there is a group of Hopkins residents for
whom no one is speaking.
In an attempt to provide proof of interest by obtaining petition
signatures, I have knocked on every apartment door in my apartment
building (1510 Mainstreet). Everyone I spoke to would like to see
the bus stop restored to the corner in question and everyone I
spoke to has signed the enclosed petition. The signatures include
those of the Building Manager and Assistant Manager. The people I
have spoken with would further like to see the stops restored to
every two blocks, as they had been. A few of the petition
signatures .represent downtown employees and a business owner. They
. are now hearing from some of their customers that .thechange in bus
stops is making it more difficult for their customers to shop
Mainstreet. (You should also be aware that I was\ unable to find
anyone at home in approximately 45 apartments, but if you
extrapolate my findings on the basis of the people with whom I did
speak, the concerned numbers would most certainly be higher than
the submitted petition would otherwise indicate.) Many residents
of this buLlding are senior citizens and suffer from various
physical infirmi ties affecting the level of their mobi 1 i ty. An
additional block between the bus stop and home is a hardship,
especially in cold and inclement weather, (which is always just
around the corner, in Minnesota). In further support of our
request, I list below some other factors for consideration:
1. JEFF'S SERVICE STATION (at the corner in question)
always has been prompt in clearing the sidewalk and
driveways. Having driveways clear enables people to
disembark the bus onto pavement without first having
to clamber over mounds of snow that have been pushed
from the sidewalk to the curbs.
2. The corner of 15th Avenue and Mainstreet has a mini-
shopping center in place and one of the tenants is a
Day Care Center. I have, on numerous occasions, spoken
to mothers while in the Bus Shelter, who have taken a
child to the Center and were continuing on to work or
. school on the bus. Removal of the bus stop in question
requires them to carry or walk that child an additional
block.
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Dropkin: Matter of MTC bus stop at 15th Avenue and Mainstreet
October 8, 1993
3. The apartment building in which I reside houses people
who go to work and return on the bus every day. Others
travel occasionally... .some are planning to do more bus
traveling once the weather becomes cold and wet. I travel
to work every day, with two friends, both of whom have
mobility difficulties. My husband is totally blind. There
are others for whom an additional block to walk is a
formidable consideration.
When the above reasons are factored in with the removal of benches
and the downtown concrete planters that provided seating, and the
removal of a bus shelter which provided seating as well as weather
protection, I find there is a public perception that Hopkins has
become less hospitable to those who don't drive a car....those of
us who walk more slowly carrying our packages or pulling our cart
of groceries, or who would like to be able to board a bus with our
shopping bags and get off across the street from our home. I
believe that the decisions of where to place bus stops were made by
people who do not routinely ride the bus, do not habitually walk
. great distances in Hopkins, and who therefore are not aware of all
the ramifications of these decisions.
I realize that the general public has the responsibility of
providing input and of being a motivational force in decisions, but
after speaking with so many of my neighbors it is apparent that
most of them are not able to go to Town Board meetings in the
evenings. Many of them do not routinely go out in the evening at
all. Many can no longer drive safely after dark and icy and snowy
roads intimidate them. Numbers of them feel unsafe on foot on the
streets after nightfall and their mobility is compromised. Some
feel disenfranchised. Other than now providing a voice for them
(and for myself and husband) I'm not certain how best to get as
many of us as possible represented in town decision making.
I will not mind if you wish to read all or any part of this letter
to the Council. I thank you for phYSically getting into your car to
evaluate the situation, for taking our cause forward for a hearing,
and for attempting to bring this matter to resolution.
Sincerely,
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Pat Dropkin
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Hopkins Mayor Chuck Redepenning
Hopkins City Manager Steven Mielke
Hopkins City Council Members
We, the undersigned, would like to petition for the return of the
MTC bus stop to the north side of Mainstreet, Hopkins, at the
corner of 15th Avenue. (See accompanying cover letter.)
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petition for the return of MTC bus stop to the north side of
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Hopkins City Manager steven Mielke
Hopkins City Council Members
We; the undersigned, would like to petition for the return of the
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corner of 15th Avenue. (See,accompanying cover letter.)
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Petition for the return of MTe bus stop to the north, side of
Mainstreet, Hopkins, at the corner of 15th Avenue (cont inued) :
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september 22) 1993
" 1413: ,,' Aft, brbpkirl
i510,Maihstreet
Hopkins, Mtt 55343
suBJect! BUS ~TOP ~ iSTH AVENUE AND HAINSTREET
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Recentiy, ,you reqti~sted that the city instcHl, a bus stop sign at
t~~ijdttnwest" cother of 15th Avenue and, Mainstreet adJacent to
u~ff. ~\Auto,~epair ~ , ,During bur" discussion tegardin<j this matter
rc>lil~?id~~~d,tha~~~~,~TC currehtly stops at this location,on an
~formalbas!s i However i you wished t.o have the cH:y formally
desi9rt~te th!Ei,as~ bus stop to insure, that t.herewould be no
qUestion "that, a bus Would be required t.o stop at this location at
all times in the futUre.
. Asy()uiti~y oritlay H()t beawarejduririg the planning of the
14~.!fiS~r~et 1:inprovemeht project extensive, discussions and analysis
!!~06kpiace f'e~ardih<j the appropriate location of bus stops on
M~~f1street i As a part of this, pUbliCinput wasinvi ted and
recei'tied "ff'bitt bb~h the, business, commtini ty and the, var iotis
residefits aloh<j Maihstreet regarding the appropriate locations
fot' the,~t6ps.,T~~ result of ,this detailed analysis and
discussibn resulted in the hus stop system Which is currently ih
platH;! i
13ase~Upoftthe,detai~edanalysis which waS condUcted regarding
. th~",aj;)pr6pfiatebUsstop looatiorta" and the fac;b that, the, ci ty
Ka~.Hot t~~~iY~dAnysignificantreq~ests f~rihstalling a bus
t'Jtt.>l'ittl!H:H AV~nUt::l and Mainstreet; 1 < must unfortunately inform
yotithitt ,bH:y staff. is hot in a position of" initiating the
locatioH tif a fof'fual bus stop at this location.
,:i:(yo~ ~t.iiitoHs~, ~o ~tirsue the location of a bus stop at the
af8t~ffi@~tibfteacbrher, thehext appropriate step would be for yoU
\:.8 feClli~st in writing to the city councii approval of the
fjroj?oSlad bus stbPi' 1: would also suggest that, you outline in this
.fl:!~UEie;t:'tH~reasdfllJfbr the,locatiott of this bus stop and any
at~l!f,~tippoft:. wlHdh may be, ift place recjarding this matter. If
't~@ elty shOUld receive a formal request from you) this matter
woUla Eheft be referred to the city council at a sUbsequent
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1010 First street South, Hopkins, Minnesota 55343 612/935-8474
An E:qual Opportunity Employer
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fueetihgl along with a staff report and recommendation. The
/e cotindil ~otild then be asked to make a final decision.
If yoti should have arty questions regarding this matter, or the
process involved with making a formal request, please do not
hesitate to contact me at 939-1351.
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of commuhity bevelopment
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