PARKING (TYLER AVE N. & EXCEL. AVE)
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February 3, 1984
To:
City Council & City Manager
From: City Engineer
Re: Parking Problem on Tyler Avenue North between Excelsior Avenue
and the railroad tracks.
On January 3, 1984, the City Council received a copy of the report pre-
pared by Sgt. Calvin Johnson regarding a severe parking problem on this section
of street. Sgt. Johnson has attempted to get all parties involved to cooperate
with each other in a reasonable use of the street~ Apparently results of this
type have not occurred. Sgt. Johnsen has therefore made recommendations that
2 Hour Parking signs be authorized on both sides of Tyler Avenue. (See copy
of report and recommendations).
The report also requested that the Engineering Department by survey de-
fine where the public right-of-way (66 'feet) is located. .This was done and the
adjacent buildings also located in relation to the 66 foot, right-of-way (draw-
ing attached). Photos which were taken will be available at the February 7, 1984
Council meeting. These show the typical situations of present parking use of the
public street. Many of the cars, coaches and vans are left in place for extended
periods of time which makes the street for all practical purposes an extension of
the businesses storage needs. These long term storage spaces should be on private
property and the street should be used for short. term parking. The present situ-.
ation makes it difficult if not impossible for the City to plow Tyler Avenue ade-
quately'. It also creates an unsatisfactory access to private driveways for turn-
ing of large trucks and could create a problem for emergency access of fire, ambu-
lance and police vehicles.
We concur that under the present conditions, that the entire right-of-way
be restricted to two hour parking. This would remove the snowbird type of vehicle
and give adequate width for roadway use; plowing and emergency access. Business
owners have been notified that this matter will be on the Council agenda 2/7/84.
Respectfully submitted,
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John J. Strojan
City Engineer
April 13, 1984
c:> To: City Council and City Manager
From: City Engineer
Re: Parking Problem on Tyler Avenue North between Excelsior Avenue and the
ra i 1 road tracks.
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Based on a history of Police and Public Works Department problems resulting
from the uncontrolled use of Tyler Avenue North by businesses in that area, a
recommendation was made to the City Council on February 7,' 1984 to post the street
for two (2) hour parking. (see letter of February 3, 1984 attached).
At the February 7 meeting the businesses expressed concern that such posting
would adversely affect their businesses. They were instructed to get together and
work out a plan by March 6 for the use of the street. A plan signed by the three
businesses was presented to the Council and this plan was referred to the Engineer
for review, (see copy of businesses plan attached).
Several meetings were held, attended by the Hopkins Police and Engineering
staff, to work out the man(ler in which such a plan, if approved, would be imple-
mented. The businesses were divided as to whether or not such a plan would work
based upon an understanding and spirit of cooperation.
It was the unanimous view of the City representatives that whatever plan
was eventually approved, the City must have the parking regulations authorized by
the Council posted by appropriate signs. Such posting would be visible for all
users of the street to see and woul d ena,b lethe Pol ice to enforce the parki ng re-
strictions the same as on any other posted street. The problem of snow plowing
could be handled the same as everywhere else in the City by towing any vehicle or
trailer hindering such street plowing after a 2" snowfall.
We would therefore recommend for Council consideration for a trial period
not to exceed one year the posting of Tyler Avenue North as follows:
Prohibit parking within fourteen (14) feet of the centerline of
Tyler Avenue on:
A. West side of Tyler Avenue from the North line of Excelsior
Avenue to a point 212 feet north
B. East side of Tyler Avenue from the North line of Excelsior
Avenue to a point 340 feet north.
No Parking Anytime signs would be posted 14 feet east and west of the
centerline with an arrow pointing in the direction of the prohibited
parking. (an example of this type of sign is in use for the E-W drive-
way south of Taits Super Valu). A line could be painted to further
delineate the limits of the 28 foot wide No Parking section of street.
C. No Parking Anytime on the west side of Tyler Avenue from a
point .212 feet north of Excelsior Avenue to the Milwaukee
Railroad right-of-way.
D. No Parking Anytime on the east side of Tyler Avenue North
from a point 340 feet north of Excel sior Avenue to the
Milwaukee Railroad right-of-way.
The location of the above listed recommendations are superimposed in colors
on the plan submitted by the businesses (referred to in paragraph 2 of this report).
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Tyler Avenue North
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In our discussion the businesses indicated that they would make every
effort to increase the number of parking spaces on their own property by re-
arrangement of parked vehicles and trailers and by additional filling of low
areas. The use of the portion of the street on which parking is prohibited
must not be used for the repair of vehicles or trailers.
The Cosmicoat Company has been ordered to remove the section of fencing
and the storage of barrels that are presently in the public right-of-way at
the north end of Tyler Avenue.
The results of this posting would be monitored and a recommendation for
change could be brought back to the City Council at any time that the trial
arrangement did not appear to be satisfactory. Also, if any of ,the businesses
moved out, the parking could be re-evaluated based on the new needs.
Respectfully submitted,
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JohnJ. Strojan
City Engineer
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