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April 22, 1983
Case No: 83-13
Applicant: Ginkel Construction Inc.
Location: N & S of Hiawatha Avenue, West of existing apartments
Request: Conditional Use Permit to construct 101 unit, two building,
apartment complex.
STAFF FINDINGS & COMMENTS: Norris - Kerrigan
1. Applicent is proposing to construct one 75 unit and one 26 unit (Building A
on the north site, Building B on the south site) structure on Hiawatha Avenue.
The property is presently vacant, zoned R-4, and the northeastern corner of
the lot is located in the Minnehaha Creek Flood Plain. Applicant has received
pennit approval for eanstruction of this project from the Minnehaha Creek Water-
shed District.
2. According to Ordinance 427.31 the minimum lot size is 20,000 sq. ft.; the north
site has 128,425 sq. ft. and the south site has 35,750 sq. ft.
3. The density requirement is 1600 sq. ft. per family unit; however, there is a
300 sq. ft. credit per unit for each space of underground parking supplied.
Using this credit for the south site, both proposed structures meet the density
requirement.
4. Required parking in an R-4 distriet is 1.5 parking spaces per dwelling unit.
The north building needs 113 parking spaces. 113 spaces(3 handicapped) are
provided; 67 spaces are to be surface parking and 46 spaces are to be under-
ground. The south building is required to have 39 parking spaces. The plans
show 16 spaces (1 handi~apped) to be surface parking and the remaining 23 to
be located in the underground garage.
5. The building on the north site is proposed to be 4 stores, permissible in an
R-4 district. Proposed are 75 units; 16 efficiencies, 43 - one bedroom units
(including 3 handicapped equipped units), and 16 - two bedroom units. Efficiencies
have 540 sq. ft. of floor area, one bedrooms have 762 sq. ft., and two bedrooms
have from 945 sq. ft. to 1050 sq. ft. in accordance with 427.31. The building on
the south site is to be three stories with 26 units. The breakdown of these units
is 3 effieiencies, 13 - one bedroom units (including 1 handicapped equipped unit),
9 - two bedroom units and 1 - three bedroom unit. The efficiencies have 712 sq. ft.,
the one bedrooms range from 712 sq. ft. to 825 sq. ft., the two bedroom units have
from 945 sq. ft. to 1095 sq. ft., and the three bedroom unit has 1425 sq. ft.; all
units in accordance with Ordinance 427.31.
6. The north building has the following yard requirements: front - 30 feet, side - 24
feet, rear - 25 feet. The plan shows a front yard of 35 feet, si~e yards of 25 or
more feet, and a rear yard of 150 feet. The south building requires a front yard
to be 30 feet, side yards to be 15 feet, and the rear yard to be 25 feet. The
plans show the front yard to be 30 feet, side yards to be 15 feet or more, and the
rear yard to be 30 feet. Both buildings comply with Ordinance 427.31.
7. According to the Zoning Ordinance there is a maximum building coverage of 30%.
The north site has building coverage of 13% and the south site has building
coverage of 24%.
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8. The landscape plan shows various trees to be scattered along the perimeters
of both lots with some shrubbery to be placed along the front and sides of
both buildings. The remaining yard area is to be sodded. The north building
is to have a facade of brick and stucco and the south building is to have a
facade of brick and wood.
9. The garbage containers are to be located in the underground garages in both
buildings.
10. Access to the north building is from Hiawatha Avenue. Access to the south build~
ing is from both Lake Street N.E. and Hiawatha Avenue. Applicant has stated
that the majority of the traffic is expected to use Lake Street for access.
11. Utilities for both buildings are from Hiawatha Avenue.
12. In May 1982, applicant presented the plan to the Zoning and Planning Commission
for Concept Review.
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ALTERNATIVE FOR TRAFFIC FLOW
ON HIAWATHA AVENUE
The attached map shows the site of a proposed multi-family development to be
known as Creek Point and to be constructed by Ginkel Construction, Inc. A total
of 101 units are proposed, with 75 north of Hiawatha and 26 units south of Hia-
watha. At the Conditional Use Permit hearing before the Zoning and Planning
Commission on April 26, 1983, residents of the area and the owners of existing
apartments on Hiawatha Avenue expressed concern over potential increased traffic
on Hiawatha and future traffic problems at the intersection of Blake Road and
Hiawatha Avenue. The Commission continued the hearing to May 31, 1983 so that
the City Engineer could prepare a report on alternatives for traffic flow on
Hiawatha Avenue.
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The site plan shows the existing residential units in the immediate area and
planned additional units encircled in red. The only units that would have any
significant impact on Hiawatha Avenue are the proposed 101 Creek Point units and
the possible 20 units on the north end of Hiawatha Avenue. In addition, other
traffic seeking shortcuts can at times add to nonmal traffic volumes.
Currently County Road 18 is under construction as a freeway. Consequently
Blake Road is carrying a higher volume of vehicles than would be expected since
Blake Road is a detour for part of the traffic that formerly used County Road 18.
At the P.M. peak hours of 4:00 P.M. to 6:00 P.M. traffic for northbound Bla~e Road
backs up at times as far as Excelsior Avenue. It is possible that a small amount
of traffic north bound on Blake Road could use Hiawatha to get to Cambridge Street
where an existing traffic signal would make it easier to proceed east or west on
Highway 7. With the completion of County Road 18, the P.M. backup conditions on
Blake Road should lessen the chances that such a movement would be any advantage.
ALTERNATIVES TO REDUCE TRAFFIC
FLOW ON HIAWATHA AVENUE
Hiawatha Avenue west of Creek Point is a single family residential area. The
street is blacktopped with a width of 21 feet and has several curves and a high
point at the north end which decreases sight distance. There are no street lights
or sidewalks between Cambridge and Blake Road. Therefore the street is not desir-_
able for carrying high volumes of traffic. East of Creek Point the street is 28
feet wide with curb and gutter. Parking is not prohibited on any seciton of Hia-
watha but the width is such that parking even on one side would cause additional
problems.
ALTERNATIVE I - CLOSE HIAWATHA
AT CAMBRIDGE STREET (NORTH END)
This plan would eliminate the through traffic by creating a dead-end condition.
This would mean that at present all traffic would have to enter and exit at Blake
Road or use the private N-S driveway at the west end of the Creek Point project.
Traffic volumes due to residential trips and for services such as deliveries and
mail could actually be greater than if the street had a second entrance-exit, as
all vehicles are forced to pass a given point twice. If the road is open at the
north end, some vehiclescould exit without the need to turn around in private drive-
ways. Emergency services such as police and fire and snow plowing and sweeping
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would be more difficult. Until a signal is installed at Blake Road and Lake Street
traffic would be forced to use non traffic signal controlled intersections or use
longer routes to signals at Cambridge and Second Street N.E.
ALTERNATIVE II - CLOSE HIAWATHA AVENUE AT
CAMBRIDGE STREET AND BLAKE ROAD
This plan would mean that all traffic for Hiawatha Avenue would have to use the
N-S road at the west end of the Creek Point Project. At present this is proposed
to be a private driveway. The driveway would have to be designated as a public
road and the road widened to 30 feet. The other negative points listed in Alter-
native I would also apply.
ALTERNATIVE III - CLOSE HIAWATHA AVENUE AT
WEST END OF CREEK POINT - TWO OPTIONS
(A) Cul-de-Sac Hiawatha
This plan would create two distinct sections of Hiawatha. The _single family
residential traffic would have to enter or exit at Cambridge Street. In addition
to the problems from being restricted to one access, listed in Alternative I and
II, the grade at the north end could present problems during ice and snow conditions.
(B) Close Hiawatha for Westbound at the West end of the Creek Point Project
This plan would require posting a DO NOT ENTER sign at the above designated
point. Traffic from the single family residential section on Hiawatha and others
entering Hiawatha at Cambridge would be permitted to go eastbound on Hiawatha, but
woulCl not be able to "legally" enter to go westbound. This 00 NOT ENTER would not
prevent emergency vehicles or city maintenance for snow plowing, etc. from making
the westbound movement. However, it would create a great inconvenience for the
single family residents by forcing them at times to use a out of the way route. It
would cause confusion for people not aware of the traffic control such as deliveries,
visitors, etc. Garbage collection and mail delivery would be hampered. In reality
the result probably would be a general ignoring of the DO NOT ENTER sign.
ALTERNATIVE IV - INSTALL NO TRAFFIC CONTROLS
OR RESTRICTIONS
This option would permit the free flow of traffic. This could result in additional
trips through the single family seciton of Hiawatha but could benefit the single family
residents by providing an alternative acess by way of the N-S private street. This
plan would result in the least confusion for persons not familiar with the area and
for mail, garbage pickup and other services.
RECOMt4ENDA TI ONS
The constru~tion of the Creek Point project will not be completed until at least
1984. By that time, County Road 18 will be completed which will probably decrease
the traffic on Blake Road. The developer has indicated he will cooperate in every
way to minimize any adverse traffic impact on the westerly section of Hiwatha. This
is evidenced by his letter of May 11, 1983 to the Commission. The developer has
engaged the services of a traffic consultant and I have discussed his analysis with
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him. His report which will be either sent to your directly before the May 31st
meeting or included with your agenda will include other possible traffic controls.
In addition, the developer will inform new residents and by a newsletter, remind
the residents of the apartments to use the routes which will not cause traffic
problems for the single family residents.
Since it is impossible to predict the actual result of the traffic patterns from
the proposed apartment construction especially in the light of the County Road 18
completion, it would not be advisable to create any traffic controls until the
effects are observed under these future conditions. It may not be necessary to
place any restrictions on the traffic flow in the future. If it proves necessary,
the City could without great delay, take measures such as the DO NOT ENTER option.
The price to be paid should in any event be carefully judged against the benefit
that is gained by any of the aforementioned options.
The future may also show the need for a traffic signal at Blake Road and Lake
Street N.E. This control would probably be a great benefit not only to Hiawatha
Avenue but to all the developments in the vicinity. The existence of the N-S road
at the west side of Creek Point would be a convenient access for all of the residents
of Hiawatha Avenue especially to a traffic controlled intersection and to downtown
Hopkins.
John J. Strojan
City Engineer
5/25/83
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May 11, 1983
Members of Planning Commission
City of Hopkins
1010 First Street South
Hopkins, Minnesota 55343
Re: Creek Point - Case No. 83-13
Commissioners:
I was pleased to get the opportunity to present our proposed
apartment development, Creek Point, to you for your review at
the last Planning Commission meeting. Much effort over the
past year has produced what we feel is a good design and will
be a very worthwhile housing product for the City of Hopkins
and its residents. We have completed our architectural, mech-
anical, and structural drawings for Creek Point. We have, as
w presented, a permit from the Minnehaha Creek Watershed Dis-
triet. Our financing is approved. We are excited about Creek
Point. We think we have combined as much of the good as we
could from our previous projects. We anticipate this to be
our best product yet and we look forward to commencing con-
struction as soon as possible.
In your next meeting on May 31, 1983, you will be continuing
the review process of Creek Point. The matter of traffic flow
and the possibilities for its control will be reviewed at that
time. John Strojan, eity Engineer, is to make suggestions to
your body in this matter. I would simply like to take this
opportunity to reiterate my comments and state our views as
developers, builders, and owners. Our first concern naturally
is that all future residents of Creek Point enjoy a geod traffic
flow. We feel that we have properly addressed that concern with
our plan and in so doing have not added any extra burden to ad-
jacent property owners.
To address this traffic situation and arrive at a workable solution,
we feel, should be no problem. Our traffic is designed to and
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we feel will in actuality flow in a north south direction to
and from Lake street Northeast. Residents of the larger build-
ing (northern most parcel) can have ingress and egress off Lake
Street Northeast across the smaller site (southern most par-
cel) as I have presented in our plan to you. I have stated
that we can tolerate traffic generated from residents of Creek
Point as well as traffic generated from residents along Hia-
watha Avenue in this manner. Concerns were registered about
traffic from Creek Point going down Hiawatha Avenue past the
single family homes. I also stated that possibly a sign on
Hiawatha Avenue stating "Do Not Enter" would effectively re-
strict traffic from east to west. This sign would be located
on eur west property line. It could possibly be placed in the
north (east to west) travel lane. This sign perhaps with
anether sign indicating an arrow pointing to the left (south)
would direct all east to west traffic across our smaller par-
cel ana south to Lake Street Northeast. -Further, a sign at
the entrance to Hiawatha Avenue off Blake Road stating "No
0utlet" weuld indicate to all incoming traffic that in deed
they eould not travel down Hiawatha Avenue all the way to C~
bridge Street. Signs indicating "No Left Turn" and "No Right
TurR-' appropriately placed on our property would also alert
all traffic that no east to west travel down Hiawatha Avenue
is permitted. This plan does not account for tr.ffic going
from east to west on Hiawatha Avenue. That traffic problem we
think is of little eonsequence. Congestion problems on Blake
Road initiate the increased travel down Hiawatha Avenue at
this time. People are looking for the"short cut" off Blake
Road. Completion of County Road 18 next Spring should do much
to help the traffic flow problems in this whole area.
I would like to caution against any hasty actions of a permaReRt
nature in this regard, because we as developers do feel the
problem of traffic may not develop. Restrictions with the use
of these signs may restrict all Hiawatha Avenue residents in a
way that impedes their travel and hence life style. It may not
in deed even be necessary. Signs as we have discussed can be
installed at any time. Some merit may exist in waiting to see
the extent of the problem if one does, in fact, develop.
Finally, with the new project of Centurion Co. south and west
of the existing Ramsgate apartments, with the presense of Knoll-
wood Towers West and Knollwood Towers East, and with the additional
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units in Creek Point, we feel that it is time for the City of
Hopkins to take steps to request that a signal light be in-
stalled on Blake Road at Lake Street Northeast. Hennepin
County should be more receptive to such a proposal because
of this new construction.
Thank you for taking the time to read this review of matters
involving our Creek Point Conditional Use Permit request.
Study of this situation shows any number of good ways to
proceed. We do ask that you undertake this study and re-
view and arrive at a workable solution in your next meeting
on May 31st. We are most eager to proceed to the City Coun-
cil for their review and approval. Timely approval for us
is desirable so that we can begin as quickly as possible.
Thank you once again for your time and considerations.
Sincerely,
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E.K. Ginkel, President
Ginkel Construction, Inc.
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Jeanne Eddy
Nelson Berg
Martha Tickle
James Folk
Paul Janke
David Kirscht
Ellen Lavin
John Strojan
Jim Kerrigan/Ann Norris
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May 27, 1983
Members of the Planning Commission
City of Hopkins
1010 First street South
Hopkins, Minnesota 55343
Re: CREEK POINT
Commissioners:
Attached are two letters that might prove helpful in your dis-
cussions regarding traffic and traffic control for Creek Point.
The first is a memorandum from James A. Benshoof, traffic con-
sultant, voicing his opinion about traffic conditions concern-
ing the proposed Creek Point development. The second is a let-
ter from Bruce D. Malkerson, a well respected municipal attor-
ney, who comments on the issue of an easement across our prop-
erty. Both letters address good points and should aid you in
studying the traffic generated by Creek Point.
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Also included is a site plan %educed to 8~ X 11 for your use.
I have shown the locations of the two signs that Mr. Benshoof
mentions in his recommendations.
I look forward to meeting with you on Tuesday, May 31, 1983,
to discuss this traffic issue and any other concerns you may
have in your review of our request for a conditional use per-
mit.
Sincerely,
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E.K. Ginkel, President
Ginkel Construction, Inc.
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BENSHOOF AND ASSOCIATES
TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS
7901 FLYING CLOUD DRIVE, SUITE 119 / EDEN PRAIRIE, MINNESOTA 55344/ (612) 944-7590
May 24, 1983
MEMORANDUM
REFER TO FILE 83-24- 20
TO: LK. Ginkel, Ginkel Construction, Inc.
FROM: James A. Benshoof ~~
SUBJ: Traffic Review of Proposed Creek Point Development
PURPOSE
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Per your request, we have reviewed your proposed Creek Point
development regarding its potential traffic implications.
The specific purpose of our review was twofold:
. To assess whether the proposed development would cause
any adverse effects on Hiawatha Avenue to the west of
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. To determine whether any signage, or other measures
should be taken to protect the residential character and
safety of Hiawatha Avenue west of the site.
ANALYSIS
As we understand, your proposed Creek Point plan involves two
apartment buildings:
. Building A with 75 dwelling units which would have
access to/from Hiawatha Avenue.
. Building B with 26 dwelling units, which would have a
driveway connecting Hiawatha Avenue and Lake Street,
providing access to/from both streets.
Based on traffic studies at similar types of developments, as
reported by the Institute of Transportation Engineers.l it is
expected that the proposed Creek Point d~velopment (both
buildings) would generate a total of 330 vehicle trip ends
1 "Trip Generation," Institute of Transportation Engineers,
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per day (165 entering and 165 exiting). During the a.m. peak
hour (about 7:30 to 8:30 a.m.). it is expected that 27
vehicle trips would exit the development and 14 trips would
enter. During the p.m. peak hour (about 4:30 to 5:30 p.m.),
the movements would be reversed, with about 27 trips entering
the development and 14 trips exiting.
Of these total trips, the only trips that might consider
using Hiawatha Avenue to the west would be trips exiting the
development to proceed northbound on Blake Road. All other
trips to/from the development would be expected to use
Hiawatha Avenue east of the site or Lake Street. The propor-
tion of development trips that would proceed northbound on
Blake Road is estimated to be a maximum of 2/3 the total
traffic exiting from the development. Applying this propor-
tion to the trip generation projection previously presented.
this movement would involve 110 vehicle trips on a daily ,
basis, with the peak hour being from about 7:30 to 8:30 a.m.
during which about 18 vehicle trips would be expected. This
volume amounts to less than one vehicle every three minutes.
The most direct route for these trips exiting from the
development would be to proceed to Blake Road via Hiawatha
Avenue or lake Street and then to turn left onto Blake Road.
If. during certain times of the day. it is difficult for
motorists to make this left turn maneuver due to the traffic
volumes on Blake load, some of these motorists may seek
alternative routes, such as using Hiawatha Avenue west of the
site.
CONCLUSIONS
When the Creek Point development is completed. the likelihood
of development traffic using Hiawatha Avenue to the west will
be less than if it were completed today. because County
Highway 18 will be open to traffic prior to occupancy of the
Creek Point development. With completion of County Highway
18, traffic volumes will diminish on Blake Road. improving
the opportunity for traffic to enter Blake Road from Hiawatha
Avenue or Lake Street. Another future potential improvement
that will enhance access to Blake Road is a traffic signal
installation at the intersection of Blake Road and Lake
Street. Considering the additional traffic to/from the Creek
Point development and to/from the two future developments by
the Centurion Company located to the west on lake Street, it
is considered quite likely that a traffic signal will be
warranted in the future at the Blake Road/lake Street inter-
section. Traffic to/from Creek Point Building B would have
direct access to this intersection. Traffic to/from Building
A also would have convenient access to this intersection via
the connecting driveway through the Building B site.
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To further reduce the likelihood that Creek Point traffic
would impact Hiawatha Avenue to the west, the following four
recommendations are made:
. Install a uno right turnM sign at the exit from Building
A to restrict this exiting traffic from turning right
onto Hiawatha Avenue.
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. Install a uno left turnM sign at the exit to Hiawatha
Avenue from- Building B to restrict this exiting traffic
from turning left onto Hiawatha Avenue.
. Inform all new residents of Creek Point, e.g. via your
MWelcome Folder," about appropriate traffic patterns t
including:
_ Residents of Building A should use the connecting
driveway on the Building B site if they encounter
difficulty turning onto Blake Road from Hiawatha
Avenue.
_ Residents of Buildings A and B should avoid usage of
Hiawatha Avenue to the west.
. Communicate any appropriate updated information on
traffic conditions and pertinent requests via your news-
letter for residents.
With these four actions, together with the completion of
County Highway 18 and the potential future traffic signal
control at Lake Street and Blake Road, it is expected that
traffic generated by the Creek Point development will not
have any adverse effects on Hiawatha Avenue west of the site.
POPHAM, HAIK, SCHNOBRICH, KAUFMAN & DOTY, LTD.
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Mr. woody Ginkel
Central Park Manor
1510 Excelsior Avenue West
Hopkins, MN 55343
Re: Creek point Development
Dear Mr. Ginkel:
In response to ~our inquiry about the possibility of having
a public easement or roadway across the parking lot for Building
B, between Hiawatha Avenue and Lake Street Northeast, I have the
following concerns:
1. The existence of that public easement and public
traffic thereon would expose the owner of the adjacent and
underlying property to claims for damages to vehicular and
pedestrian traffic using the easement and adjacent parking lot.
2. Such an easement may cause title problems with the lot
because the easement will separate the building and a portion of
the parking lot from the remainder of the parking lot; there may
be problems concerning the transfer of open space, parking and
other zoning requirements from one side to thE other.
3. The existence and use of such an easement may create
future problems with the City concerning maintenance, repair, snow
removal, and reconstruction when necessary.
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As a municipal attorney, I ~oul~ be surprised if the City of
Hopkins wanted to own, maintain and be liable for such an easement
acrOSb private property.
If there are potential concerns about traffic, they are
better addressed through standard traffic control procedures such
as those suggested in Mr. Benshoof's letter of May 24, 1983.
Please call if you have any questions.
very truly yours,
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Bruce D. Malkerson
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