Petition- No Parking (W of 18th Ave N)October, 1982
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would like a -no parking restriction for the West side of the street on
the basis of: 1. Street too narrow for an ambulance or fire truck to get
through when both sides have cars.
2. Last winter, there were at least several days the snow
plow didn't get through.
3. Both sides of the street have adequate off street parking
facilities.
4. With a car parked on the opposite side of the street and
one each on each side of a driveway, there is no room to
get out of the driveways,. especially with a snowfall.
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CITY OF HOPKINS
1010 FIRST STREET SOUTH HOPKINS, MINNESOTA 55343 612/935-8474
MEMORANDUM
DATE: November 12, 1982
TO: Bill Craig, City Manager
FROM: Butch LaBerge, Police Supt.
SUBJECT TRANSMITTAL STAFF STUDY ON "NO PARKING, 18th AVE. N.
Sgt. Cal Johnson's recommendations in this matter, adequately
represent the opinion of the Police Department.
November 4, 1982
TO: Ovide L. LaBerge, Supt. of Police
FROM: Calvin C. Johnson, Traffic Sgt.
SUBJECT: Petition from residents of the west side of 18th Avenue North, 300 block,
to erect No Parking signs. (See copy at rear)
1. PROBLEM
Attempt to determine if there is a need for a No Parking zone on the west side
of 18th Avenue North in the 300 block.
II. ASSUMPTIONS
A. There was 90 inches of snow over the winter of 1981 -82. It may be fifty
years before we have that much snow again.
B. The petitioners refer to snow in two of the four items mentioned an their
petition. We can assume, apparently, that the major portion of the problem,
as the petitioners see it, is when snow is on the ground.
III. FACTS BEARING ON THE PROBLEM
A. There are eight dwelling units on the west side of 18th Avenue North in the
300 block. One of these buildings is a double bungalow, #332 324. The
other six buildings are single family hares.
B. There are twelve dwelling 1 nits on the east side of 18th Avenue North in the
300 block. Four of these are double bungalows. The four doubles are 319
321, 325 327, 331 333, and 335 337. The other four units on the east
side are single dwelling units.
C. There is no alley to the rear of the dwelling t nits on the west side of 13th
.Avenue North in the 300 block. This is the side of the street the petitioners
live on.
D. There is an alley to the rear of the dwelling lists on the east side of 18th
Avenue North in the 300 block,
E. The first petitioners on the list., Mr. Mrs. Engelkes, live at 336 18th
Avenue North. Their house is directly west of the four double bungalows on
the east side of the street.
F. 18th. Avenue North is 33 feet wide in the 300 block.
G. No vehicle, including fire trucks and ambulances, can be more than eight feet
wide, according to state law.
H. With two vehicles parked at the curb (each vehicle eight feet wide) equalling
sixteen feet, there should be seventeen feet of road left open to the use of
any vehicle that desires to travel there.
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I. With snow at the curb and piled, plowed, or blown into the street, the width
open to the public for perking and driving will be reduced, of course.
J. Cliff Robinson., Street Sanitation Superintendent, told me that the plows
usually p law in the 300 block of 18th Avenue North between 0 80 0 and 12 00
K. 18th Avenue North dead ends in the 300 block; this may hinder p laving i.t
properly.
IV. DISCUSSION
A. I had a personal conversation with Mr. Englekes at his home on October 30,
1982. His a: unents were:
1. "Cars are parked too far from the curb because the plow does not get
the snow away from the curb."
2. "The people from the doubles across the street cause the problem, many
of than have two cars and won't use their alley ways or shovel out a
spot adjacent to their alleys
3. ":A lot of the people fran across the street, (doubles on east side)
park o the west side
B. I talked with Street Superintendent Cliff Robinson about this, and he said,
"The plows got through but could not do a good job because of cars from the
double bungaic r zs
V. CONCLUSIONS
A. There probably was a snow plowing and space problem in the 300 block of 18th
Avenue North_ last winter. The problems were:
1.
A record snowfall, about 90 inches.
2. Two days in mid-January, about three days apart, totalled about 30 in-
ches of snag.
Because of all this snow, I n concluding that the people who live in the doubles
on the east side of 18th Avenue North gave up trying to shovel and plow out their
parking spots at the rear of their buildings and used the street because that was
the easy way out.
B. If No Parking signs are posted on the west side of 18th Avenue North in the
300 block, it will present a hardship for those who want to park on the east
side. If residents of the west side of the street :want to have company of
any kind, there are going to be less spaces to park in.
This will be even more acute in the winter tins with snow an the street.
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C. The street department and the police department are easily contacted by
phone. There is no reason that I can think of that the street department
could not plow this area, unless cars are blocking their way.
D. If cars are blocking the way of the plows, the plow driver should call the
police and ask us to tag and /or inbound any vehicles interfering with snow
plc»aing.
E. If the conditions become as acute as described in the petition, any of the
residents on the petition should notify us immediately.
F. Mr. Engelkes told me that he did not communicate the problems described in
the petition to the street or police department last winter. He did complain
to the snow plow driver once, he said.
DTI AC-10N RECOMMENDED
A. That the request for the No Parking zone on the west side of 18th Avenue North,
in the 300 block., be denied for the following reasons:
1. We have ordinances, impounding procedures and plowing techniques, in
existance to alleviate the problems described in the petition.
2. If approval of this petition is granted, it might start other similar re-
quests.
3. It is my feeling that with proper enforcement, plowing, and communication
to the street and police departments by the petitioners, the snag problem
can be alleviated without the No Parking zone.
Annex A A copy of the petition
Annex B. A copy of a plat map of 18th Avenue North area
October, 1982
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the basis of: 1. Street too narrow for an ambulance or fire truck to get
through when both sides have cars.
2. Last winter, there were at least several days the snow
plow didn't get through.
3. Both sides of the street have adequate off-street parking.
facilities.
4. With a car parked on the opposite side of the street and
one each on each side of a driveway, there is no room to
get out of the driveways, especially with a snowfall.
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