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04-09-02 WSApril 9, 2002 Page 1 MINUTES CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION -APRIL 9, 2002 A work session of the Hopkins City Council was held at 6:30 p.m. on Apri19, 2002, at the City Hall. Council members present were Mayor Maxwell and Council members Brausen, Jensen, Johnson and Rowan. City personnel present were City Manager Mielke, Assistant City Manager Genellie, City Planner Anderson, Housing Coordinator Elverum and Economic Director Kerrigan. Zoning and Planning Commission members present were Maureen Allen, Ross Bartz, Kristi Halverson, Mary Hatcher, John Szuba and Jay Thompson. Ordinances Mayor Maxwell opened the public hearing for Ordinance 2002-869. Mr. Genellie presented Ordinance 2002-869, which would change the date ordinances become effective from 20 days after publication to the day of publication, or a specific date set by the City Council. Mr. Brausen moved the public hearing be closed. Ms. Jensen seconded. Mayor Maxwell closed the public hearing. Mr. Brausen moved the Hopkins City Council approve Ordinance 2002-869 for second reading and order published. Ms. Jensen seconded. Passed 5-0. Mayor Maxwell opened the public hearing for Ordinance 2002-867.Mr. Genellie presented Ordinance 2002-867 that would establish a Police Review Committee, replacing the Police Civil Service Commission and taking on its role as arbiter of disciplinary actions. Ms. Johnson moved closing of the public hearing; Mr. Rowan seconded. Mayor Maxwell closed the public hearing. Ms. Jensen moved the Hopkins City Council approve Ordinance 2002-867 for second reading and order published. Diane Johnson seconded. Approved 5-0. Mayor Maxwell opened the public hearing for Ordinance 2002-868. Mr. Genellie presented the ordinance, which would define the duties of the Committee established in Ordinance 2002-867 and establish procedures. Ms. Jensen moved public hearing be closed, Ms. Johnson seconded. Mayor Maxwell closed the public hearing. Mr. Rowan moved that the Hopkins City Council approve Ordinance 2002-868 for second reading, approve the summary of Ordinance 2002-868 and order the summary published and posted at the Hopkins Activity Centex and approve Resolution 2002-22 for second reading. Mr. Brausen seconded. Approved 5-0. Vehicle Storage Ordinance City Plaimer Anderson said the main changes the new ordinance would cause is accessory buildings would be limited to two; boats could be in driveways from May 1 until October 1; RV's and boats could be up to 22' , although RV storage procedure is not changed; RV's over 22 feet could be put in the back yard if screened; RV's could be kept in a driveway up to 48 hours for loading, maintenance, etc.; ~a household can have as many cars sitting outside on improved surfaces as there axe licensed drivers plus one. A public hearing with the commission is scheduled for April 30 with 15` and 2"~ readings in May. Mayor Maxwell suggested the video be shown at the hearing. Mr. Brausen suggested a timeline showing the long period of work leading to this be shown. Ms. Johnson asked if snowmobiles would be allowed on the driveway in winter; Ms. Jensen also expressed concern. Later Mr. Brausen said he saw it as a trailer issue. Mr. Szuba said since they are easier stolen than boats, most owners want them in a garage. Ms. Anderson said this has not been an issue. Answering Mr. Brausen, she said enforcement would be on a complaint basis. Mr. Mielke added that the names of those who complain are not revealed to the offender. Ms. Johnson asked about public reaction. Mr. Bartz said boat owners are happy about the longer length allowed. April 9, 2002 Page 2 Mr. Rowan said the language needed to flow more; Ms. Anderson said the ordinance still had to be reviewed by the city attorney, then would be reworded where needed. Mr. Brausen and Ms. Jensen said they felt the commission did a good job. Continents by commission members were as follows. Ms. Halverson said she was satisfied. Ms. Johnson, Mr. Bartz and Mr. Szuba all expressed concern whether the complaint basis will clean up the major eyesores. Mr. Szuba said he still would like fewer cars allowed parked outside. Mr. Bartz said commercial vehicles still need to be addressed in the future; Ms. Allen added 12`~ St. in particular is made hazardous by commercial vehicle parking. She added she would be comfortable with snowmobiles in driveways during winter months and would like fewer cars parked outside. Mr. Thompson said he did not even like the idea of such an ordinance to start with, but now thinks it is a good thing. Ms. Hatcher said she liked the ordinance. Mr. Mielke suggested that if the ordinance is adopted, it should be reviewed by the commission in a year. He added part of the problem with accessory buildings is a maintenance issue; some are poorly kept up. NIs. Johnson wondered if safety could be tied in. Mr. Thompson asked if required building maintenance includes sheds. General Consensus: Overall all happy with the ordinance. It will go to the city attorney for review. Upcoming Development Projects City Plamler Anderson showed a drawing of the Beard project at 2°a St. NE and Tyler Ave. N. Beard says they carulot cut the density because of higher costs than anticipated; later Mr. Kerrigan said they had to put $400,000 more than planned in Alliant Tech. Ms. Allen said that at the open house Beard's people tools notes on Shaw's overlay. Mr. Kerrigan added that Hoisington- Koegler will look at it before it is up for review. Mr. Szuba said he thinks platting the street has some merit. Mayor Maxwell commented traffic should be less than when Alliant was full. Ms. Johnson said she went to Shakopee and looked at carriage houses, and is not happy about having them in Hopkins. She noted that there will not be parking in front so views from the front is not an issue. She did not like Beard's comment that residential will support the rest of the property development. Ms. Jensen agreed she was not happy with the carriage houses. Mr. Mielke said Ryeland will not build single-family homes there. Mra Thompson said he feels it is the highest use for the property; if Beard were pushing for higher profit, it would all be carriage houses. If the carriage houses are moved to the inside, the roads won't work; he feels it is a well thought out plan. Both he and Ms. Allen noted that the carriage houses are in reality 2 i/z stories, not 3, iri height. General Consensus: While some participants see problems, the general feeling was that the developer should not be told to go away. Ms. Anderson will bring this back in May. Ms. Anderson then gave an update she has received from the Luthers. They are considering moving Hopkins Honda to the Knox property. If that happens, their present main building would still be used for car sales, but at a lower volume, and they would keep the car lot diagonally across the road. The body shop and parking lot site would be available for redevelopment. City Manager Mielke says rezoning would be needed for a car lot on the Knox propertya Traffic may be an issue; Mr. Kerrigan says a very preliminary report from the engineer says 5"' could handle the traffic. Ms. Jensen said a contributing factor there is that SuperValu is getting rid of a night shift which will increase early morning traffic. General Consensus was favorable, that the chance to improve Mainstreet would be worth having a car dealership at Knox. April 9, 2002 Page 3 City Manager Mielke then updated Zoning and Planning on the proposed Public Works, Police and Fire development, showing a drawing of the concept plan. Mr. Thompson asked about effect on taxes. Mr. Mielke said partly that depends on whether the school helps with some costs and what monies are taken from sewer and water funds. Generally speaking, residential taxes would increase $110-130 per year over a 20 year period. Funding would come from two bonds. There are two types available. Bonding by referendum would go against the market values of the properties. Lease Revenue Bonds through HRA would not require a referendum and have the advantage of going against the tax capacity, which would result in lower cost to home owners. Linder the Lease Revenue bonds groundbreaking could probably be next spring; with a referendum it would be later. Mr. Bartz said he thinks the Lease Revenue Bonds would be the way to go. Ms. Allen said the new plan would greatly improve safety at Curren. Mr. Szuba asked that the child care center children going to the park be considered. It was agreed Zoning and Planning Commission will tour the police department before their next meeting. At this point, Mayor Maxwell asked Commission members to think what kind of training they would find helpful and advise the Council at their next meeting. At this point the Commission left. Rezoning 2"~ Ave S. Business Properties City Plamler Anderson said there is a small area along Highway 169, just east of the new SuperValu warehouse that is now B-1 (Limited Business), but the new Comprehensive Plan has designated it as Business Parlc. The designations must match. Either the plan should be changed or the zoning changed. Another option would be to rezone the properties north of 7"' St. to Business Park and keep Aspen Clinic and Hopkins Health as B-1. Mr. Mielke said the issue he had raised earlier was that with Business Park 40% could be warehouse; leaving it as B-1 would open it to a future retail strip., Mr. Kerrigan said he thinks the high visibility would make it more likely to be retail than warehousing, which prefers lower cost property. General Consensus was that the neighborhood needs to have input in the decision at a Zoning and Plamiing meeting. Development Agreement, East CBD Project Housing Coordinator Elverum said another Cornerstone focus group meeting is scheduled for April 10 with over 40 people signed up. Old materials were found in the cupola atop Suburban Feed; the historical society is taking some things from the Kost buildings. The major issue at this time is the moving of utilities. $100,000 was allocated by the city for the storm sewer; if it goes to the south property line, it would cost $60;000. The pressurized gas line is much more expensive to move than original estimated .costs: $120,000 to go to Mainstreet and $50,000 to the south property line. Cornerstone first asked if HRA would pay and were told no. They now propose that HRA pay $80,000 of the combined cost, with them paying $20,000; after that costs would be split evenly until HRA cap of $100,000, the original estimate for the storm sewer. Mr. Kerrigan added Livable Communities could possibly reimburse the city. Mayor Maxwell said he wants to be sure moving the gas line does not prevent Loininens from future development. Mr. Kerrigan said he would be meeting with Lommens next week. Mr. Brausen asked if moving the utilities to Mainstreet would mean Cornerstone might want to develop along 7`''. Ms. Elverum said no, they do not want to lose the parking. Mr. Kerrigan agreed when Ms. Johnson asked if moving the utilities to Mainstreet would mean the new road would be torn up. April 9, 2002 Page 4 Ms. Elverum said Cornerstone has agreed to a 15 % profit on residential; anything over that would be split with Hopkins. An independent party would audit the records to determine the profit margin. The Conditional Use Permits will be before Zoning & Planning in May. Mr. Kerrigan added the new Suburban Feed will open June 24; it seems an old building is under the present parking lot, but enviromnental hazards have not been determined yet. Tuesday the final development agreement will be up for approval. ®ther Ms. Jensen said Mr. Barbario of Stages had been very irate with her about possible lease violations by the Shoestring Players production and mentioned suing the city to her. The Shoestring director has asked that Council members view a video of the production in question to see that it was not "children's theater." Mr. Mielke said the letter Mr. Strachota received did not mention a lawsuit but seemed to be aimed more at clarifying language to avoid future problems. Mr. Rowan said he thinks the purpose is to avoid future problems. Ms. Johnson said she had contacted Mr. Stadler about the debris in the parking ramp stairwells . Mr. Brausen said he still thinks the Council needs to implement a more formal training for boards and commissions, both procedural and content. Ms. Johnson said she would help plan content. Ms. Jensen suggested the League might be a source for materials. Mayor Maxwell reminded members that the city school annual partnership celebration will be at Meadowbrook Elementary on April 17 at 6:00 p.m. NIr. Mielke said Met Transit is scheduled for the next work session to discuss three issues: 5"' Ave. buses, Excelsior Blvd. transit station, and state budget cuts and how they may affect Hopkins. Ms. Johnson moved adjourmnent; Ms. Jensen seconded. Meeting adjourned at 10:10 p.m. Kasey Kester, Secretary ATTEST: Eu e J axwell, Mayor