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10-26-04 WSOctober 26, 2004 Page 1 MINUTES CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION -October 26, 2004 A work session of the Hopkins City Council was called to order by Mayor Gene Maxwell at 6:30 p.m. on October 26, 2004, at the City Hall. Council members Brausen, Rowan and Thompson were present. City personnel present were: Acting City Manager Jim Genellie; City Planner Nancy Anderson; Public Works Director Steve Stadler; City Attorney Wynn Curtiss; and Finance Director Christine Harkess. Also present were Tony Heppelmann of WSB Assoc.; and Brent Lindgren of Hennepin County Public Works. Shady Oak Road Update Mr. Stadler said that the Minnetonka City Council has approved the four-lane idea. They have requested at least one joint meeting with Hopkins Council for long range planning, goals, and redevelopment planning that makes the wisest use of opportunities rather than worrying about city boundaries. They recommend aSun-Sailor notice stressing the cooperation between the two Councils. Mr. Heppelmann said that about 50 feet at the southwest corner of the duck pond remains the same in all four options. The alignment with the road south of Excelsior will stay the same in • all plans up to Bradford. All plans incorporate two through-way lanes each direction, 6 foot raised medians at intersections and turn lanes. On the east side all have 8 feet for the trail with a 2 foot buffer and 6 foot sidewalks on the west side. One option would consolidate more roads on the northern end. Two other options shift the northern end to either the east or the west. Shifting to the east would make the intersection with Highway 7 more perpendicular; 7 homes would need to be acquired. Shifting west would leave 20-25 feet from houses to the curb. The southern half could be shifted to the west; the deciding factor here would be redevelopment ideas, which have not been studied yet. Minnetonka had suggested a "backage" road on the south end for businesses. Mr. Brausen noted the elevation drop behind the business farthest to the north could be a problem. Mr. Heppelmann said the present housing development largely dictates the placement of the Mainstreet intersection. Land usage will have impacts on the north end -single-family residences may not be the best use of the area. Since land usage studies are not done yet, footage lost for parking at the present businesses is unknown. Mayor Maxwell said he had talked to Ms. Anderson at Minnetonka; she suggested a January joint meeting. He feels there will need to be several meetings to decide long-term planning for the area. Mr. Stadler suggested Hoisington-Koegler should sit in on those meetings. Mr. Brausen said he felt the economic impact would be larger on Hopkins as most businesses in that area are Hopkins businesses. He added he felt a house being left only 20 feet to curb might be considered a taking. General Consensus was to meet with Minnetonka in January with Hoisington-Koegler present. Speed Signs Mr. Stadler showed the "Respect Our Neighborhood 30 MPH Speed Limit" signs. General discussion followed. October 26, 2004 Page 2 General Consensus was that any area could request the signs, even on collector streets, and use them for a couple weeks. Mr. Brausen volunteered to serve as the city contact person. Goodwill CUP Ms. Anderson said the second traffic study requested by the Council has not been done. She asked the City Attorney's office to look into the issues raised. City Attorney Wynn Curtiss said he looked to see if the CUP was defensible if the owners decided to go to Court against the City. His feeling is that a CUP is not appropriate in this case due to language in the industrial district permitted uses in the city ordinances. He feels the drive- through, as it is proposed to be built, would meet the definition of a building; it does not matter if there is a garage door at each end. In addition loading and unloading areas are permitted accessory uses. Ms. Anderson said the addition would not be big enough for a site plan review as it is only 720 sq. feet. A site plan review is triggered by a percentage or 10,000 sq. ft. She suggested changing the ordinance so that CUP's would apply to industrial areas. She added Goodwill had called Tuesday and said they are withdrawing the CUP application but are staying in the building. Jim Genellie suggested that a redraft also lower the percent of retail space without a CUP to 10 % . Mayor Maxwell said his concern is that 200,000 sq. ft. remains in the building without an overall plan. General Consensus was that Ms. Anderson should oversee drafting of changes to the ordinance that would require CUP's for drive-throughs and that would lower the automatically allowed retail space to 10 % with a maximum 25 % with an approved CUP. Mr. Curtiss said that if Goodwill does not withdraw its application, the city will need to notify them they do not need a CUP. In either case, the matter is off the agenda for the next Council meeting. 2005 Budget Ms. Harkess covered the changes in the budget figures of the last work session. The Economic Development Fund budget salary amount was reduced to show personnel reduction. There is no project that qualifies for Livable Community Grant. Present budget would use $131,270 reserves. She recommends parking ramp permits be raised $10 per year ($3 per quarter, $2 per month, $1 per day). The police department is asking enforcement officers be increased by a total of 8 hours, which would add $5,600.00. She did not know how that time would be allocated. With fee increases and increased enforcement there would be a net loss of $37,991 for 2005. Mr. Brausen and Mayor Maxwell noted there had been no complaints on the present rate of enforcement. She listed the equipment in the Replacement Plan for 2005. She will get more information on the Luverne pumper, extrication tool and flatbed. Water rates will increase $.20. With this increase depreciation will be covered. Ms. Yager had projected another increase in 2010; the new water meters may change that. She talked to Pat Weigel in Utility billing. There are large losses in bulk collection, yard waste/leaf collection/ recycling, and brush service. Profits from disposal, if the new rates of $13.20, $15.90 and $17.25 are implemented, will cover all but $25,000 of those losses. She will October 26, 2004 Page 3 check with Mr. Stadler on the yard waste program. Mr. Brausen said that sometime in the future he would like more information on the brush removal program and when its rates were last raised. General Consensus was all proposed rate changes were acceptable. The police department should explain the need for the increased enforcement at the Nov. 9 work session. Mr. Genellie and Ms. Harkess presented a proposed schedule to work on budget issues. There were no objections as presented. It was noted the budget would be passed at the December 21 Council meeting. Other Mr. Genellie handed out copies of a letter from Pinnacle Engineering asking the Council to pass a resolution supporting an environmental financial grant application to Hennepin County by the Hopkins School District #270 for studying the feasibility of a school bus facility on the Hopkins Landfill site. General Consensus was to have this on the next Council agenda. Mr. Rowan noted interested parents and coaches have approached the school board about a possible Aquatic Center on the original site of the garage. Mr. Genellie proposed a joint meeting with Zoning & Planning on future planning for the city. This will be a dinner meeting at 5:30 November 30. Mr. Thompson moved adjournment. Mr. Brausen seconded. On a 4-0 vote, the meeting adjourned at 9:10 p.m. Kasey Kester, Secretary ATTEST: Eug ne axwell, Mayor